Most Overrated Rifle?

[Horsemany]

Savage. Stevens. Tikka

 

[retgarr]

The 10/22, the 10/22, and followed closely by the 10/22.

 

[ltetmhs]

*duck and cover* every AR and TC ($800 for a single shot?)

 

[esmith]

ibtl

Oh, okay, thanks. I needed you to tell me that. It helped me learn something. It doesn't even apply, there was nothing said that will constitute a lock.


I personally don't think very many guns are overrated. The pre-64 model 70 winchester is sort of overrated though, im not sure how much the controlled round feed helps when i'd probably only be using the gun for target practice.

Weatherby magnums and other wildcat rounds on the market i believe are overrated to an extent. They seem to adress a problem that doesn't exist.

 

[jws527]

It's pretty safe to slam H&K without offending anybody around here, since I'm sure virtually all of us have actually handled and used firearms outside of video games - and HK doesn't want lowly civilians having access to their firearms.

 

[JHansenAK47]

Gewehr 43 (not impressed calling it hitler's garand is an insult to garands)
Ljungman Ag42 (only because the gas system isn't adjustable)
MP5 (no bolt hold open and cost more than a stamped receiver gun should cost and has those terrible drum sights)
glock (hate the grip angle more of a beater than a performance unit and shouldn't cost 500 new for what you get)
HK pistols (not the p7 series)
Kimber rifles (not getting a good buy for your buck)

 

[KBintheSLC]

And I never understood how AR's are overrated. Most of what people say is, they jam, they need cleaned constantly, and that they don't work with steel cased ammo. They do jam, but so does every gun if you push it hard enough. You never hear, "AR's never jam, you could bury them for a year" but you do hear that with AK's.

You are right that AK's can jam as well, but a decent build will need thousands of rounds without cleaning for this to happen. I have never heard of an AR that can fire even one thousand rounds without cleaning. It is a fundamental "flaw" so to speak of the AR impingement system. A piston will always be more reliable.

Now the new AR's with piston systems are a different story. I am excited to see how they work out in the real world.

 

[R.W.Dale]

Having gone through TC phase I'm gonna say the Encore and Contender single shots. Replacement barrels cost just as much and a complete bolt action and accuracy is hit or miss at best. Buying a $800 tc pro/hunter doesn't gain you anything over those hit or miss Handi rifles but at least the NEF only costs $220. These guns are at least 88% media hype and %12 substance.

Second is the rem 700. They don't do anything any other manufacturers bolt action can't do but people who buy a $300 wally world Dale Earnhart limited edition ADL convince themselves they have a gun on par with the likes of Blazer, AI or Montana

 

[greyling22]

since the contender was mentioned and blurred the line of rifle: I'll toss in my vote for most overrated firearm of all time: the 1911 45acp.

 

[ForneyRider]

AR - as a platform. But my DPMS bull 20 is worth every nickle. A 40gr can keep up with my dad's 50gr .22-250 and just as accurate as his 700 VLS. And I have the cheap trigger.

H&K anything - but they are a hoot to shoot. just can get a sweet shooting polymer gun for lot less.

Kimber rifles - Have yet to read of tight groups with these. They are pretty, like a Weatherby.

Weatherby - nice stock, but lugs that don't get used.

Bullpup - blow up, accuracy no better than an M4.

 

[dagger dog]

I gotta jump into this!


Any variant of "assault rifle" that was produced after the STG or MP 44which ever you like to call it. You have to respect the ORIGINAL design!

#1 AK 47 and its 100,000,000 offerings, and brethern.

I can't go the BS about Kalashnikov not even knowing about the German made 44.

#2 Eugene Stoners bastard.

Even the M16 and its offsprings are abominations, plastic, paint,aluminum
and in an anemic caliber. Now how in the world can you call any of the firearms in that category a RIFLE?!.

The Nazis had the right idea in some of their selective breeding experiments, breed a larger and better soldier and he can hump enough of true battle rifle calber ammunition.

 

[RobMoore]

Druganov. Why is it cool?

It has so much curb appeal, but its really a crappy "sniper rifle". Sure, it extends the range of an otherwise AK armed platoon, but thats a low standard to exceed.

 

[sachmo]

Remington 700 and its sewer pipe action. Is it possible to build it cheaper and sell it for more? 50 cal so called sniper rifles, the other extreme of the 5.56. Cz 527's Ive had 3 and had to fiddle with each of them to get them to shoot and the actions still dont realize they are supposed to feed cartridges one after the other.

 

[esmith]

#2 Eugene Stoners bastard.

Even the M16 and its offsprings are abominations, plastic, paint,aluminum
and in an anemic caliber. Now how in the world can you call any of the firearms in that category a RIFLE?!.

Okaaaaaaay, you are wrong. You, like many others, aren't looking at the rifles intended purpose. You have a twisted view of what an AR15 is supposed to be. You seem to think that the AR15 platform was designed to be like a tank, with steel recievers, and im guessing steel stocks and handguards, which makes no sense. Also keep in mind the internals, chamber and barrel are NOT made of aluminum. The m16s weren't made to be total tanks, they were made to be light and accurate rifles. I believe they fufill that purpose.

 

[kcmarine]

Eh... I wouldn't call the AR overrated. Sure, it's not the maintenance free rifle that the AK is, but if you can find another rifle that can switch out calibers by removing two pins, change from a carbine to a sharpshooting rifle by switching out the upper and buttstock, shoot 1.5-1MOA groups out of the box (semi automatically), cost ~$1,100, and maintain the same ergonomics and firepower capabilities while doing all of this, I'll buy you a steak.

The Glock? Totally overrated. Same with the MP5, though that would be a less justifiable position 20 years ago. Of course, now that 50% of the world's armies have body armor, it's not that great of a weapon. Of course... that goes for anything made by H&K.

 

[Andrew Wyatt]

10/22, followed by anything by HK, the XCR, anything made by FN in .223, followed by the m-14, and that's only because of H2o man.

 

[jws527]

Okaaaaaaay, you are wrong. You, like many others, aren't looking at the rifles intended purpose. You have a twisted view of what an AR15 is supposed to be.

Actually, nobody can be "wrong" about any of this, because what constitutes "overrated" (as well as "best" or "worst") is entirely subjective. It's all entirely a matter of opinion, and you can take two men with identical experiences and get two completely different responses out of them.

The AK, M16, M14, Garand, K98 and so forth are all battle-tested weapons, and have certainly served a good number of men well enough or it's unlikely that they would receive much affection at all. Whether or not they completely deserve their reputations is open to interpretation - and I'm sure there's even somebody somewhere who has used an HK weapon in combat that does think it lives all the way up to the hype, or at least did when he needed it to.

 

[H2O MAN]

Andrew wyatt 10/22, followed by anything by HK, the XCR,
anything made by FN in .223,
followed by the m-14, and that's only because of H2o man.

LOL !!

 

[wcwhitey]

The M1 Carbine - I know people like them but to spend $800 plus on one is just nuts IMHO. A confused little rifle!

 

[jerkface11]

How can Savage/Stevens be overrated? They're widely available affordable and accurate.
That said the 10/22 is the most overrated rifle on the market they're inaccurate unreliable and expensive.
Followed by the Mini14/30.
Then the Rem 700.
No thank you on all 3 I can get better rifles for less money in each of those categories.

 

[MountainWalk]

AR's
Weatherby calibers
Tikka rifles
Kimber

 

[mgregg85]

-- Pretty much all pistol-caliber carbines

I love my SUB-2000, I don't see the downside to a pistol caliber carbine that takes the same magazine as whatever pistol you carry. And it folds in half to be able to fit into tiny spaces 16"x7".

 

[Vern Humphrey]

The pre-64 model 70 winchester is sort of overrated though, im not sure how much the controlled round feed helps when i'd probably only be using the gun for target practice.

The pre-'64 Winchester never advertised "controlled round feed." They called it a "claw extractor" and it does its job and does it well.

Ross Siefried once pointed out that the pre-'64 Winchester is a good example of the whole being more than the sum of the parts -- 3-position safety, claw extractor, simple and easily adjusted trigger, good hinged floor plate that doesn't pop open under recoil, and generally very good accuracy add up to something that matches its reputation.

 

[Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow]

Ross Siefried once pointed out that the pre-'64 Winchester is a good example of the whole being more than the sum of the parts -- 3-position safety, claw extractor, simple and easily adjusted trigger, good hinged floor plate that doesn't pop open under recoil, and generally very good accuracy add up to something that matches its reputation.

Do you mean, just like post-'71 Winchester 70s?

 

[Vern Humphrey]

I don't own a Classic -- but I do own a pre-64 made in 1939. It's a bit heavier and linger than the style nowadays, but it shoots well, and works well under adverse conditions. I was using it for a backup on an elk hunt and had to use it when the trigger mechanism on another rifle got wet and froze up.