Most progun movie ever, The Strangers?

[TeamPrecisionIT]

I know we had a thread about this not long ago, but since its a sort of new movie I wanted to talk about it. "The Strangers" has been changing the minds of every single anti I know that now wants a gun (or more usually, A LOT of guns) in their house. I have even had one come up to me and ask about teaching their kids to shoot as well as to teach them how to reload (which is something I don't know how to do, yet). Has anyone had this happen to them as well??

Damian

 

[Auburn1992]

I just really wish they would have USED the gun effectively.

 

[Cypress]

So uh... Did the chick die or what?

 

[gregthehand]

I guess I'll have to rent this now.....

Wasn't it based on true events?

 

[marktx]

Haven't seen it as the genre doesn't appeal to me but every time I see the trailer I think that it would be a much shorter movie had the victims been properly armed and willing to defend themselves.

My impression (prejudiced) of most movies of that genre portray weapons as likely to be turned against the person trying to defend themselves. I take it from your post that The Strangers doesn't present that message? If it could be a positive medium for promoting self defense I might just have to give it a try.

 

[Prepster]

I really didn't see it as pro-gun. I don't wish to spoil anything, but the way in which the gun is used makes me feel this way.

 

[indoorsoccerfrea]

haha that was a great movie, i can definantly see that as pro-gun. and yes, those events more or less did take place

 

[indoorsoccerfrea]

hmm...idk about that

 

[Golden Hound]

It can't be more pro-gun than The Postman.

 

[Loomis]

War movies are not pro gun. Guns are necessary in war...not necessary in peace...that will be the ani-gun crowd's point of view.

THerefore, red dawn is not a pro gun movie.

Vigilante movies are not pro-gun movies since vigilante-ism is technically illegal.

Law enforcement movies are not pro gun since law enforcement is not civilians.

A true pro gun movie would be one in which an ordinary citizen, legally owning a firearm, successfully defends one's self and/or others legally and proficiently with his or her personal firearm and is portrayed as a hero for doing so.

 

[JWarren]

That was a seriously messed-up movie.

Mainly because I live in the woods.


It WAS pro-gun if you are the type of person who has it in them to actually defend themselves. Many are not.

I saw it more as a lesson on actually knowing how to USE a firearm. What what the guy's line?

Oh.. "I'm not even sure if I know how to load this thing."


The anti-gun groups will use that as an example of how having a firearm in the house is more likely to have harmful, unintended consequences or just get taken away from you.

Well, yeah... if you are an anti-gun idiot who carries and uses the firearm with utter distain for it. Its hard to argue with weenies from the point of view of actually having ANY amount of spine.

The people in the movie were idiots. Idiots will see themselves as those in the movie-- and rightfully so. Idiots at least recognize themselves. However, they NEED to project thier own idiocy onto others to feel better about themselves.

No, MOST firearms owners are not like you, Paul Helmke.




-- John

 

[Auburn1992]

Wasn't it based on true events?

Not really. The director syas it was because of some 'events' that happened in his childhood.

These events were a stranger knocking on his door and him not knowing who it was

 

[freeman17]

There was one thing I did like about this scary movie, that all the other scary movies NEVER DO!




!!---------S P O I L E R S----------!!!



I loved how they actually put themselves in the room with the gun, only letting the bad guys come in through one possible entrance. I always hated how scary movies, they always go LOOKING for the bad guy. If someone is trying to kill me, I'm setting up a camping spot for cripes sake!

 

[CannibalCrowley]

Not really. The director syas it was because of some 'events' that happened in his childhood.

These events were a stranger knocking on his door and him not knowing who it was

No, it was a compilation of two separate events. There were several break-ins in his vacation neighborhood when he was younger and he got to thinking about what might happen if the homes were occupied at the time. The other inspiration was the Sharon Tate slayings.

 

[Ruggles]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Strangers

For what it is worth. Seems more fiction than fact according to this.

 

[bmxr4life87]

Yeah it just made me mad how HORRIBLY they mishandled theirselves but i guess if it was more realistic it wouldnt be nearly as exciting!

 

[TeamPrecisionIT]

Oh yeah, and all of you should tell your friends, if they are coming to check on you, to announce their presence somehow. "Hey, its me, not the boogeyman!"

Damian

 

[bthest86]

**SPOILER**

How is it pro-gun? He shoots and kills his friend and never hits a single "stranger." What kind of pro-gun message would that convey to a fence sitter or anti? If you know enough to pick apart the mistakes and "what not to do with a gun" then you're probably a gunner already.

I didn't like the movie. It was unoriginal. Same dumb old mistakes by victims, same dumb old scare scenes and at times very boring. I can't believe the good reviews it got. I was rooting for "the strangers" since they seem to have more common sense than the two protagonists.

 

[gotime242]

I couldnt believe it turned into another "No, you stay here!! Ill go outside" movie. Ridiculous.

 

[RKBABob]

This movie perfectly illustrates the fact that a firearm is useless without a brain!

 

[SCPigpen]

That movie was filmed about 20 miles from my house. I was really hoping I'd see Liv Tyler while they were filming!!

 

[Loomis]

Johnny, it's a war. lot's of gun grabbers have participated in wars as soldiers and taken the lives of other soldiers.

A war movie is in no way a pro-gun movie any more than it is a pro-war movie.

Is a movie about a rapist a "pro-rapist" movie?

 

[IncredibleGord]

I think "Home Alone" would be about 10 mins long if the kid had a shotgun.

 

[BHP FAN]

true enough,but he would of burned his house down if he had molotovs....

 

[FLoppyTOE]

How is it pro-gun? He shoots and kills his friend and never hits a single "stranger." What kind of pro-gun message would that convey to a fence sitter or anti? If you know enough to pick apart the mistakes and "what not to do with a gun" then you're probably a gunner already.

Exactly what I was thinking. Antis don't look at the big picture. They will take one instance of unpleasantness and and ride it to death. Of course it is normally a skewed or partial version of the truth, but they wouldn't have a "point" if they didn't do that.