Most severely-recoiling firearms

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i have a friend with a ruger #1 in 45/70. i've shot it on the bench with a fairly hot 350 grain load and it wasnt that bad at all. i did want to shoot his 500 grain solids he has loaded to near 458 win mag specs, but i decided to save the shoulder. i wanted to see how it compared to my 12 gauge slug gun and its 546 grain loads at 1520 fps. lol i could imagine it would have been pretty violent
 
I would have to go with a Savage 99 in 300 Savage. I shot a box, then cleaned and put the gun back up on the wall.

Way more brutal than my Mosin.
 
Shoulder shock'n awe!

Hands down for me is the Marlin Goose Gun, 10ga mag, 36" full choke "reach out and touch'em barrel".

My first goose hunt with this shotgun rendered two Canadian geese that were flying almost straight toward me maybe 100 feet high. They hit the ground 110 yds from the blind, same shot. I figure they were near 125 yds out when I 'sky busted" on them.:)
 
try a Bertier carbine with french mg rds 236gr at 2800fts.
I thought the italian carbine in 7.35 was bad but!!
:uhoh: :confused: :banghead::banghead: :)
 
A .50 BMG with a poorly designed brake can be brutal to the point of almost needing stitches. The .416 Rigby can be quite stout as well. For the handgun, a HOT .45-70 in a BFG revolver is pretty substantial.
 
For me, I have found the greater factor to be firearms design. I have fired a .378 Wea. Mag that was less punishing than my .338 Win Mag in a Remington 700 "Classic". The design of the classic stock design was horrid...and the Remington rifle was Mag-Na-Ported. :D

In pistols, the most punishing was my Freedom Arms .454 Cassull. I would rather fire an Encore pistol in ANY caliber than to fire that FA. That's why I sold each of these undesireable (to me) firearms.
 
For guns that kick like a crazy mare, I personally can attest to those gigantic muzzle-loading elephant guns. I saw a guy shoot a 4-bore decades ago. He had quarter-pound roundballs and half-pound conical Minie bullets. He charged that damn beast with at least 200 grains of powder (just to get those hellaciously big bullets out of the barrel). Well, it sounded like a cannon going off, and since the bore was more than 20mm wide (I believe 4 gauge is caliber 1.166 which is about 26mm if my computations are correct), it was technically artillery. It knocked him back a few steps every time he fired the wondrous thing. He was happy to hit the paper, but I think he was aiming at the wooden target supports as he was ruining that lumber.
Personally, my WW2 British Lee-Enfield No. 5 Mk. I .303 caliber 'Jungle Carbine' is a strong kicker. They shortened and lightened the SMLE rifle, but it fires the same .303 round (7.7x56mm Rimmed). They put a rubber butt pad on it, but 70 years later, it is as hard as the black walnut stock.
Also, shooting .71 caliber slugs backed with 120 grains of black powder from a 12 gauge short-barreled "blanket gun" (a chopped musket that could be fired while a canoe, and typically kept in the folds of a rolled up blanket). That damn pistol got away from me and konked me on the head. I just charge it with 70 grains, now.
 

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I dont know why i see .50 BMG in this thread, people must be firing it from unbraked rifles or light hunting type guns. My AR-50 actually recoils about the same or a bit less than my rem 700 PSS. Its the slap in the face, and the feeling in your sinuses that can get to you. I went 50 rounds one day though mine :p

Hardest recoiling I've shot? Mosin M44. Was a bear. Especially with the steel buttplate.

Anyone remember the beast? A American derringer chambered in 7.62x39 The guy who owns it is a member here.
 
I don't own any REALLY big rifles but my less than six pound Marlin 1895 with 300 grain jhp bullets at over 2200fps is all the punishment I want from a rifle thanks.

In pistols I have to say the most unpleasant one I've owned was a Glock 23

In shotguns, my Mossy 500 with the 18" plain jane barrel and lightweight stock is a real kicker with 3" magnum ounce and a half shells.
 
i have not shot this before but ive readin a old bp book about 2, and 4, gauge/ bore big game rifles. gauge is how many bore sized rb you can get out of 1lb of lead, so 10 gauge would fire a 700 grain round ball, so just imagine a 2 gauge-3500 grain round ball, being pushed by a 8oo grain load of black powder, i think it was a 21 lb gun but wouldn't that have some major kick still?:cuss:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2KgbC1TViQ&feature=related
check this out, i didnt actually watch it cause i have dial up but, like i said, 3500g rb. they only use 500g bp an that doesn't look like a 21 lb gun. i DO distinctly remember a 800g charge of bp for something on the same page as the 2 bore, maybe it was the 4 bore? either way CRAZY lol:what:
 
Wow 1858rem you dug this up from the past. Over a year since the last post on a three year old thread. Don't you think you could have started a fresh one, and let this old one die peacefully?
 
the worst kicking handgun i've ever shot has to be the PF9. it's almost as bad as shooting 2 3/4" slugs through a shotgun with a pistol grip. my brother owns one, and the last time we went to the range, i could only get 20 shots through it before i gave up. it made shooting my 1911 seem like a .22LR, by comparison.
 
FWIW, Hatcher described a rifle an inventor brought in for evaluation by the Army.

The rifle was a "blow-forward" gun, where the barrel went forward at the shot, extracting and ejecting the case, and then picked up a new round on its way back into battery.*

Major General Julian S. Hatcher was head of the small arms development section, and certainly had experience with all kinds of shoulder weapons, so he ought to know. He remarked that it was the worst-recoiling gun he had ever fired. He only fired one shot, which was enough for the General, and handed it back to the inventor, who said he was "used to it," and proceeded to fire several more shots with it, apparently without discomfort.

The problem, of course, was that the body of the rifle was not only recoiling from the bullet and the combustion gases, but was also throwing the barrel forward, taking the recoil from the barrel as well.

In addition, the mass of the gun, in figuring recoil, had to be reduced by the weight of the barrel itself, which normally is an integral part of the gun's mass.

Before arthritis got into my shootin' hand, I did not have much trouble with the recoil of a .44 Magnum in a single action revolver, although I did not like it particularly. The main problem with it was recovering from the shot to make a second shot. In a hunting situation, this (at least theoretically) would not be a problem, but for just range practice and shooting at targets of opportunity (tin cans, cowpies) it just was not much fun.

On the other hand, as noted in the above post, a 124 grain load out of my Kel-Tek PF9 is also very brisk and sharp, but the recovery time is a lot less for followup shots since you don't have to bring your arms down almost from the vertical and re-align your whole anatomy. This is not a "fun" gun, either, but the recoil, even though it is very sharp, does not throw you off so much for that all-important second part of the double-tap procedure.

I would agree with a previous poster that the .30-06 in an '03 Springfield is about the worst-recoiling small-arms shoulder rifle I have ever fired **, and the .30-06 in my lighter sporter in this chambering is even worse.

Certainly "plenty enough" to satisfy my inner gorilla.

The recoil from my 91/30 M-N with its pike-like 26" barrel is by no means as bad as the '03, and I have to kind of chuckle to myself when folks complain about it. And believe me, I'm no recoil junkie, and the hair on my chest is fairly sparse.

Now, I have never fired the lightweight, short-barred M44/M38 carbine verions of the Mosin-Nagant, but I expect that would indeed be pretty uncomfortable. So I'll pass on even trying one of them.

And gas-operated semis are usually, in my opinion, a lot "softer" in their recoil than the bolt versions for any given cartridge, even though the total recoil energy after everything settles down back into battery might be the same. I believe that, unlike the barrel being thrown forward in the "adventure" General Hatcher had above, the operating rods, bolt carriers and bolts, and what-have-you, are being thrown backwards on firing a gas-operating arm, compensating somewhat for the recoil of the bullet and gases themselves going forward. This, to my mind, spreads out the recoil and makes it feel softer.

Jes' ramblin'.

For what it's worth. Three cents, nowadays. Make that four.

--Terry, 230RN

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* REF: p 261 ff., Hatcher's Notebook

** I have no experience with anything with an "M" in the cartridge name except for rimfires. And I don't want any.
 
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Browning BPS pump shotgun. 10 ga. 3.5" magnum T shot. Will knock a 15 lb Canada from the sky like it's a dove.
 
As far as the weapons I have used

Rifle- probably 7mm
Handgun- S&W .50 revolver
shotgun- 12ga 3" mag
 
T/C with a 30/30 barrel, I'm not that strong armwise I was sore for a couple days. A rifle round out of a handgun is fun, but hurts.
 
Here's a recipe for ridiculous recoil.

1. Get a NEF Pardner break action 12 gauge with a 3 inch chamber. Nice and light weight.

2. Get one of those 3" Lightfield magnum slugs.

3. Pull the trigger.

4. Don't do it again.
 
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