Mouse gun?

[ranger7]

I have two P-32s and a P-3AT (second P-3AT on order).

Several thousand rounds through the P-32s Had some early problems with them but they've been 100% reliable for at lesast two years.

Have about 250 rounds through the P-3AT. Slightly more recoil than the P-32. One or two ammo related problems in the first couple of mags.

I'm a big fan of these "go everywhere guns."

Alan

 

[Kentucky Rifle]

Gun Buddies,
I own a P-32 and I'll purchase the new .380 model the first chance I get. However, I just ordered a RJ Hedley "Front Pocket LE" for my Seecamp. Both RJ and Larry Seecamp are friends of mine. I honestly believe that this is the best combo I could possibly have in my pocket.<shrug>
Oh, I almost forgot. My Seecamp is loaded with RBCD ammo.

KR

 

[Rebeldon]

I kinda like the NA Mini-revolver in .22 Mag. I might get one.

 

[QuarterBoreGunner]

Another vote for the NAA 32 and the Beretta 21A 'EL' (ok ok so it's a little pimp... I got a good deal).

The KelTec P32 just didn't work for me.

 

[pistolwhipped]

Just yesterday I fell into a LGS looking for the elusive P3AT. What I found was a P32 for over 300.00 . NOOOOOO!
And no P3AT !

 

[CZ-100]

I visited Two Gun shops last Fri. One had a USED P32 for $320 and the other had a NEW one for $268

OUCH

 

[Deepdiver]

A .38 is not a mouse.

Mouse guns start at .32 and work backwards.

Sorry! I thought a "mouse gun" was what one used to shoot "mice"..

....we got some big ones around here !

 

[tiberius]

For anyone that's interested, during my initial P-3AT report (a few posts up), I reported that despite its perfect functioning with S&B ball ammo, I had several FTF’s with Cor Bon JHPs.

I polished the feed ramp to a near mirror finish (Dremel, felt wheel & jeweler’s rouge) and it now reliably feeds hollow points. I have successfully run, Cor Bon, Speer Gold Dot and Federal Hydra-Shock through it. This second range session included 150 rounds with no failures of any kind.

 

[Bill.45]

Comparison Pic

chetrogers ask for a picture to compare the P.32 to another handgun so he could get an idea of it's size. Chet, here is a full size .45 and the P.32. I bought the Kel-Tec a month ago at a gun show, new in the box for $208.95, plus tax. I saw a mdl. in .380 for $211.95 but it was gone when I returned to look again.

 

[rolltide]

Another vote for the NAA 32 acp. As small as the Seecamp, as reliable, and much less expensive. NAA 32 is much more reliable than the P32 seems to be with hollowpoint ammo. With the 32, you get mousegun size with 380/38snubnose performance stopping power. Quite a deal.

I carry one everyday in a belt pouch with my cell phone or in a front pocket holster with a mag wallet in the back pocket with one 10 round mag full of FMJ and a standard mag full of JHP.

Roll Tide

 

[tiberius]

With the 32, you get mousegun size with 380/38snubnose performance stopping power.

Or at least .32 power.

 

[Rogelio]

Walther P22???

Hello:

I am kind of new to this forum, so I would really appreciate some help....I recently lost my job and had to sell my 2 guns (a Makarov in .380 and a Glock 25) and right now I am unarmed.

A couple of days ago I asked for some opinions on a certain handgun (bryco) that a friend offered to sell, but now my father has offered to give me his Walther P22 (the one with the standard barrel, not the 5").

I have already shot 5 boxes of premium high speed hollowpoint ammunition at the range with it (I do not recall the brand but it was a blue box) and the gun did not jam once, it is really accurate and fun to shoot.

Can it be used for concealed carry?? I know the .22lr is not a defensive caliber, but maybe can I stop an attacker with a full magazine of well placed high speed hollowpoints?

Thanks for all the help you guys are giving me...

 

[ranger7]

Others may disagree, but I think a 22LR is better for defensive purposes than being unarmed. I can't quote a source at the moment but I believe most uses of a handgun for self-defense involve no shots being fired. There may be an increased intimidation factor having a bigger hole in the end of the barrel, but most sane people don't want to be shot, even with a 22.

I would suggest you try to move up to something in a larger caliber when you can.

Alan

 

[Rogelio]

Thanks for your reply..I have also got to shoot the Bryco and never had a single misfire....but as my dad is giving me the .22 I thought it would be nice to save the money or maybe use it in buying quality ammunition...which one is better choice...a quality .22 with maximum speed hollowpoint ammo or a cheap .380 with round nose FMJ (we can not buy hollowpoints for anything larger than .22 here in Peru)???

 

[RandyB]

Just my 2 cents worth, but on the .22 LR I'd recommend sticking with a solid vs. hollowpoint. Pentration is crucial. Looking at the Remington viper or other HV solid is what I have carried in the past. A .22 might not be the best choice for self-defense, but it sure beats nothing.

 

[Rogelio]

Randy thank you for your advice....so should I stick to the P-22 or get the Bryco? I think I should get the .22lr because at least with that gun I am sure I will get all the shots out and not get the gun jammed (as would happen with the bryco according to most people in this forum)

Nice point when saying that solid is better for a .22 lr, but I just have one little question...is that penetration issue only about people wearing heavy clothes?? I ask because here in Peru we have a great weather and only this time of the year (our winter) our temperature goes as down as 15-16 degrees celsius...(I live in Lima, but on the highlands-where I do not go- it can be up to -12 celsius) so people most of the time wear nothing but sweaters or a light jacket...I don´t think there should be any problems with such light cloting..I am wrong??

Please answer back...I will go to the range today and shoot for a while with my dad´s P-22, I think I will try some different manufacturers of ammo so I can decide what feels the best (alos, what feeds, shoots and ejects the best!)

Thanks...

 

[RandyB]

Clothes to me make a minumum impact on the round of choice in any firearm I carry. (Maybe because here in Indiana the weather can change so suddenly) It was 67 F this morning and in the 90's F this afternoon and will change even more as fall approaches. In the .22 LR you are unlikely to get much in the way of expansion in a .22 out of a short barrelled handgun. The mechanics of injury is going to be to either hit the CNS or by polking holes through major blood carrying sites. If a .22 can penetrate 10 inchs or 6 inchs, which is going to do more damage? which is also more likely to hit a major organ/vessel? When I carried a PT-22 I shot all sorts of different round through it and found that the Remington Viper did best for me. You might find another round is more accurate, penetrates better, fires more reliable, etc. in you particular weapon. IMHO also I would rather have a .22 that shot 100% of the time, than a .380 that I did not trust. If the .380 was 100%, then I'd carry anything it and feel it was a 'better' choice than a .22 for self-defense. Another round to try might be the .22 "Velocitor" by CCI, it is a hollow point to my understanding, but it might penetrate deep enough and expand also..... Good luck and stay safe!

 

[sw442642]

If you don't have bucks and want something quality but small - look at the NAA 22 LR or Mag minirevolvers. Yes, they have disadvantages but for $150 or less, you get a nice small gun.