My Brand new Glock 19 jammed 3 times in 150 rounds.
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CountGlockula
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Try gripping it firmer and try different ammo.
High Planes Drifter
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I should have mentioned, all of my mags are OEM GLOCK mags. Two came with the gun, and I purchased another when I picked the gun up. But like I said, it is an OEM GLOCK mag.
sturmgewehr
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Given the nature of the malfunction, it's likely not the magazine that's at fault.
mpmarty
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Check for extractor function and possible damage. If you drop the slide on a glock with a round in the chamber you can easily damage (chip) the extractor. this is a known weakness in all Glocks but more so in the larger calibers.
romma
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My money is on the ammo!
Big Boomer
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I have nothing to add but sarcasm 
And on that note:
Glock's NEVER jam! Take that back! You might find a posse after you shortly!
This thread has been perpetuated by evil underground Glock haters. It must be those 1911 freaks! Glock's are the GODSEND of all modern evil black pistols! Nothing else compares! NOTHING!!! I say nothing!!! Muhahahahaha
There is nothing wrong with that Glock, it will eat any ammo, so it must be the operator that is not worthy.
And on that note: The Glock hater police WILL be coming after you!
And on that note:
Glock's NEVER jam! Take that back! You might find a posse after you shortly!
This thread has been perpetuated by evil underground Glock haters. It must be those 1911 freaks! Glock's are the GODSEND of all modern evil black pistols! Nothing else compares! NOTHING!!! I say nothing!!! Muhahahahaha
There is nothing wrong with that Glock, it will eat any ammo, so it must be the operator that is not worthy.
And on that note: The Glock hater police WILL be coming after you!
MarshallDodge
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I was going to say something about Glock perfection but I will hold my tongue. 
I agree with the ones that say try different ammo, magazine, and check your grip.
I agree with the ones that say try different ammo, magazine, and check your grip.
chieftain
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In my 50+ years of shooting I have not been able to limp wrist any Pistol of any caliber. (that includes 10yrs Marine Corps including 2 tours in Vietnam and as a Drill Instructor, Worked for a Florida Sheriff, and DOC, Compitition since I was 10 years old, and still competing) It is an excuse for a poor running weapon. Often dirty. If the question of limp wristing comes up, you have a problem with your weapon.
If it is a toy, my term for a non fighting weapon, then it doesn't matter.
New weapons need to be cleaned and inspected to it's smallest detail BEFORE SHOOTING. That includes magazines too. Many new weapons need to be tweaked. I have never had to send a gun back to the manufacturer. I have owned and/or own well over 500 guns in my life. I have always been able to get the most reliability out of any platform.
No I am not a Gunsmith. But anyone running a weapon for fighting, must know everything there is to know about that weapon. Down to the smallest pin/piece. What needs watching, what needs regular replacement, what to lube, how much to lube (saw a early model Glock about 20 years ago jam from to much lube), etc..... it's weakness's and strengths. Every weapon has them, every one of them. Know yours.
You know you have a rooky, or an idiot, when they only tell you the strengths of the weapon they carry. If they don't know or admit to the weakness's, all of them, they are amatuers potentially heading for trouble. It is one reason most institutions use Armour's. They don't trust the end user to maintain the weapon to save their own life.
This applies to LEO and Military as well. Just cause they pay you to carry a weapon doesn't doesn't make you a gunman. It may just make you a target waiting to happen. A true professional knows all their tools.
Use good full power ammunition, particularly during "break in". Monarch doesn't qualify. (I have often heard folks say I paid $x,xxx.xx for this gun "It better work perfect right from the box". Would you do that with an Aircraft or Car? Would you jump right into a race or fight with a car/plane you didn't break in first?
Mark your magazines Alpha/numeric so you can ID each one.
Shoot any fighting weapon at least 500 rounds for function, and then 500-1000 rounds in your carry ammo. Now you can say whether it will or will not function when needed for social intercourse with a given ammunition.
Even Glocks. A friend of mine, and he is Glockguy, just bought a first Gen model 17. It still had the original 'copper' lube in it. And it had been shot a lot, but for a Glock nowhere near to much.
Go figure.
Fred
If it is a toy, my term for a non fighting weapon, then it doesn't matter.
New weapons need to be cleaned and inspected to it's smallest detail BEFORE SHOOTING. That includes magazines too. Many new weapons need to be tweaked. I have never had to send a gun back to the manufacturer. I have owned and/or own well over 500 guns in my life. I have always been able to get the most reliability out of any platform.
No I am not a Gunsmith. But anyone running a weapon for fighting, must know everything there is to know about that weapon. Down to the smallest pin/piece. What needs watching, what needs regular replacement, what to lube, how much to lube (saw a early model Glock about 20 years ago jam from to much lube), etc..... it's weakness's and strengths. Every weapon has them, every one of them. Know yours.
You know you have a rooky, or an idiot, when they only tell you the strengths of the weapon they carry. If they don't know or admit to the weakness's, all of them, they are amatuers potentially heading for trouble. It is one reason most institutions use Armour's. They don't trust the end user to maintain the weapon to save their own life.
This applies to LEO and Military as well. Just cause they pay you to carry a weapon doesn't doesn't make you a gunman. It may just make you a target waiting to happen. A true professional knows all their tools.
Use good full power ammunition, particularly during "break in". Monarch doesn't qualify. (I have often heard folks say I paid $x,xxx.xx for this gun "It better work perfect right from the box". Would you do that with an Aircraft or Car? Would you jump right into a race or fight with a car/plane you didn't break in first?
Mark your magazines Alpha/numeric so you can ID each one.
Shoot any fighting weapon at least 500 rounds for function, and then 500-1000 rounds in your carry ammo. Now you can say whether it will or will not function when needed for social intercourse with a given ammunition.
Even Glocks. A friend of mine, and he is Glockguy, just bought a first Gen model 17. It still had the original 'copper' lube in it. And it had been shot a lot, but for a Glock nowhere near to much.
Go figure.
Fred
A field stripping and cleaning/lubing is what I do to all my new guns. Some guns' warranties are voided by detail stripping them though. Not sure how a manufacturer would tell though.
That's pretty much where my head's at, too.
That gun ought to run right out of the box after a clean/lube. That's what they're designed to do. Break-in times are expected for super-tight tolerance race-guns, or even some tightly fit customs that are intended for SD, but not an off-the-shelf Glock. If the problem is continuous and you are sure it's not your grip then get in touch with Glock and get your gun fixed or replaced.
I share the same opinion. After seeing that box of nasty .45 ACP, it will never be run through any of my guns. I'm sure others might have had better experiences with it, but once bitten...
Never had any problems with Remington UMC or WWB for range ammo. Even Blazer Brass is a step up from the Monarch IMHO. I'm not sure if it's the culprit or not, but it would be the first thing (and cheapest thing) to test out.
Jason
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Hey high plains drifter it looks like this is just gonna degenerate into an I hate Glock thing from all the anti-Glock wankers out there. At any rate it would be rare for this to be a problem with the pistol itself, and to be honest with you I personally would have put a lot more ammo through it before posting it as a problem per se. I have no experience with the ammo you're using but thats the best place to start if you have ruled out limp wristing the pistol. The G-19 contrary to what you're being told by some here does not need to be held any differently or death gripped to function properly. This type of experience is almost always simple to correct and I would caution you to be patient with your pistol. If the problem is not you, check the mag for clean function, and change ammo, both easy fixes. If it continues with various ammo and you've ruled out mags ect.. bring it to a Glock certified armourer you'll have no diffilculty locating one. Good luck and be sure to follow up your post and let us know how it works out....................
Glock
If this is a true story, send the pistol and mag back to Glock. I'm sure they wish to figure out why this is occurring. I'd first try another brand of ammo. However I've never seen a Glock that would not digest anything that will fit in the magazine. I've come to believe that a very large percentage of problems on the internet are bogus when it comes to Glock. I've never met anyone in person that has had a Glock malfunction regularly. To be honest, I've never seen one break or met anyone that has had one break. I have read such things on the internet.
But then again, I've read of space aliens, Luminati and Bilderberg conspiracies, unicorn's and other things. I know many gun people and pretty much travel in gun circles. You'd think I'd meet or see some of these Glock problems. Or as much as I shoot, and as many as I own, you would think I'd experience them. At any rate, send it back, if there's a problem they will make it right - immediately.
If this is a true story, send the pistol and mag back to Glock. I'm sure they wish to figure out why this is occurring. I'd first try another brand of ammo. However I've never seen a Glock that would not digest anything that will fit in the magazine. I've come to believe that a very large percentage of problems on the internet are bogus when it comes to Glock. I've never met anyone in person that has had a Glock malfunction regularly. To be honest, I've never seen one break or met anyone that has had one break. I have read such things on the internet.
But then again, I've read of space aliens, Luminati and Bilderberg conspiracies, unicorn's and other things. I know many gun people and pretty much travel in gun circles. You'd think I'd meet or see some of these Glock problems. Or as much as I shoot, and as many as I own, you would think I'd experience them. At any rate, send it back, if there's a problem they will make it right - immediately.
Judy's New G19...
...had several instances of jamming, and since she was a new shooter, I ascribed some of the problem to her.
At any rate, I'd ordered three additional Glock OEM magazines for the gun, and when we marked them with tape, intending to put a mark on the tape for each malfunction, low and behold, all the marks ended up on one magazine. Who'd of thunk it! We exchanged the bad mag, and have since added a 33-rounder. 8500 rounds later--flawless!
My G17 has just passed the 9500-round mark without one hiccup!
But ammo matters! I got two shipments of .45 ACP Blazer Brass from Natchez, and some of the cartridges were 1/8" shorter than average!
These short ones would not feed in my G21, but would hang up on the feed ramp. This might've been lucky, as the short ones may have been over pressure from the bullet set-back!
Those were the only problems I've had with my G21, in .45 ACP mode. This gun has over 12,500 rounds on it--the latter 1200 being 10 mm. In converting the gun to 10 mm, I did have to experiment with ammos, springs, etc., to tweak the conversion to 90%+ reliability. I believe I can yet get it to 100%.
So far, all three Glocks have been fabulous firearms!
--Ray
...had several instances of jamming, and since she was a new shooter, I ascribed some of the problem to her.
At any rate, I'd ordered three additional Glock OEM magazines for the gun, and when we marked them with tape, intending to put a mark on the tape for each malfunction, low and behold, all the marks ended up on one magazine. Who'd of thunk it! We exchanged the bad mag, and have since added a 33-rounder. 8500 rounds later--flawless!
My G17 has just passed the 9500-round mark without one hiccup!
But ammo matters! I got two shipments of .45 ACP Blazer Brass from Natchez, and some of the cartridges were 1/8" shorter than average!
These short ones would not feed in my G21, but would hang up on the feed ramp. This might've been lucky, as the short ones may have been over pressure from the bullet set-back! Those were the only problems I've had with my G21, in .45 ACP mode. This gun has over 12,500 rounds on it--the latter 1200 being 10 mm. In converting the gun to 10 mm, I did have to experiment with ammos, springs, etc., to tweak the conversion to 90%+ reliability. I believe I can yet get it to 100%.
So far, all three Glocks have been fabulous firearms!
--Ray
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I have over 8,000 rounds in my Glocks and have never had a problem! Not one. I use UMC Remington ammo at the range and Speer Gold Dots for carry.
chieftain
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Yea, I know what you mean.
I even heard on the internet that Glocks were perfect and never break.
I do know a bunch of police Armour's and Competition folks that would beg to differ with you. Both them and I like Glocks. But we are required to live and deal in the real world.
I have seen the old KB's usually of reloaded ammo, and I always discounted them. I have seen one Glock 21 KB and had only been fed factory FMC.
I have seen a Glock 23 shear both it's rear rails, I have seen a Glock 17 sheer it's locking lug off the barrel. I have seen many Glock magazines go tit's up too. Seen a lot of Glock sights break. Seen several Glocks break their trigger springs. ETC.....
So what. Glock is still a reliable pistol. Marginally not as reliable as some, but good enough that at times I carry one. Compete in Steel challenge with another one since July.
But don't blow smoke. Every machine needs service and needs to prove to me that I can reasonably expect it to go bang at the hour of my need. I call that break in. I Can't remember any pistol not running BETTER after running one to two thousand rounds through it. Also if it has a defect or bad part, it usually will show up in that time. If it is a fighting weapon, it is only your life.
Obviously, you worship at a different church.
AIN'T AMERICA WONDERFUL.
Go figure.
Fred
The only thing that ever mad my G19 stovepipe, was weak reloads.
+1. One stovepipe out of hundreds fired. It was a weak reload.
I have shot Monarch in my G19 without a problem. I'm pretty perplexed here. Good luck, and let us know what comes of this.
-David
+1. One stovepipe out of hundreds fired. It was a weak reload.
I have shot Monarch in my G19 without a problem. I'm pretty perplexed here. Good luck, and let us know what comes of this.
-David
tsuehpsyde
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I put 150 rounds of Monarch through my Glock 22 after I first got it, and it fired all 150 without any problems. As a matter of fact, I put over 500 rounds through it with no problems.
Then, this past weekend, a group of us from work went out and I had put over 100 rounds through the Glock before everyone got there. Then four other people shot a few mags through it, no problems. However, when my co-worker's wife shot my gun (who had never shot at all before today and was limp wristing it a bit), on about round 5, the slide held open. I sort of stared in amazement, but I took it, checked it (no stovepipe or misfeeding), field stripped and looked down the bore, re-assembled and told her to firm up her grip. Problem went away.
The video above proves this very well as well. If you've got a good grip on it, either try better ammo and/or a better mag. My Glock has been completely dependable.
Then, this past weekend, a group of us from work went out and I had put over 100 rounds through the Glock before everyone got there. Then four other people shot a few mags through it, no problems. However, when my co-worker's wife shot my gun (who had never shot at all before today and was limp wristing it a bit), on about round 5, the slide held open. I sort of stared in amazement, but I took it, checked it (no stovepipe or misfeeding), field stripped and looked down the bore, re-assembled and told her to firm up her grip. Problem went away.
The video above proves this very well as well. If you've got a good grip on it, either try better ammo and/or a better mag. My Glock has been completely dependable.
bdg146
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Glock worshipers are great, aren't they?
For argument's sake, let's say you own 20 Glocks, which is a lot of ugly pistols. Figuring that you'd have one bad experience would mean that you're betting 1 out of every 20 Glocks malfunctions and needs to be sent back to Glock. That's 5% of handguns manufactured. If that were true of any major handgun manufacturer, you'd hear all about it on places like THR, and they wouldn't be in business long. Just because you own a lot of Glocks and they all function doesn't mean that a bad Glock is as rare as a unicorn. Let's be realistic here, shall we? :banghead:
sturmgewehr
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I don't know if I buy that. Kimber has a higher than 5% failure rate according to Kimber owners who poll themselves regularly on another forum.
Kimber is still in business and selling guns like crazy...
Mad Magyar
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As to Glock worshippers or detractors, it takes just a minute or two to scan the daily postings to see "what's up?"
Every major gun mfgr., including Glock, has a "pimply-faced, pencil-neck Geek" who monitors these forums & are eager & ready to jump in to bestow the unique qualities of certain handguns; but foremost to defend their quality....How do I know? I know.... Their names are veiled in anononymity. Basic salesmanship & it's cheap & very cost effective....
Every major gun mfgr., including Glock, has a "pimply-faced, pencil-neck Geek" who monitors these forums & are eager & ready to jump in to bestow the unique qualities of certain handguns; but foremost to defend their quality....How do I know? I know....
Their names are veiled in anononymity. Basic salesmanship & it's cheap & very cost effective....bdg146
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Based on 209 voters. You can hardly base an entire manufacturer's reliability on 209 votes. And I was talking major malfunctions... ones that required a return to manufacturer for fixing. Let's not even get into the fact that people that are satisfied with a product are much less likely to voice their opinion on it than those who are not satisfied with a product.
I was making up numbers, so this really isn't worth arguing. My point was that if 1 in 20 new Glocks needed repair by Glock or a Glock certified armorer to work properly for the first time, then they wouldn't have a reputation for reliability. Therefore, it's kind of ridiculous to compare a malfunctioning Glock to a unicorn just because none of their 20 Glocks have had major malfunctions.
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