My first Remington 1858

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Great idea! I have conversion cylinders for a couple of mine. I shoot 45 Schofield's loaded with black powder. Stainless conversions are available right now. Blued ones are out of stock.
 
I've got six 1858s but none of them have adjustable sights or stainless steel. Really nice looking gun. The stainless is very appealing to me. Back in the 70s when I shot matches the Lyman NMA just seemed to shot right on except for the higher front sight I put on it. They were off hand matches and I loaded 20grs for 25 yards and 28 grains for 50 yards. At 25 I could shoot in the 90s with an occasional 100, but 50 yards was another story. If I stayed in the 80s I was happy. The NMA is a copy of the originals and they had short front sights because they were sighted in for a 100 yards. So a higher front sight is in order. It always amazed me how close to the X ring they'd shoot with just the grove in the top of the receiver. I had to buy a Witloe to get one with adjustable sights.
 
AlexanderA said:
Since you have the "modern" target sights, why not go all the way and get a cartridge conversion cylinder? This gun practically cries out for one.
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I don't need conversion cylinder. In that case, I will have to reclassify this revolver as center-firing. In EU laws are different than in USA. Much easier to get muzzle loading firearm than center-firing one. If I want 45 Colt, I will just get Ruger Blackhawk, simpler and faster than find conversion cylinder. BTW, I already have 3 revolvers in 44 Magnums; 5,5 and 7.5 Bisley-s, and 7.5 Redhawk.
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I've got six 1858s but none of them have adjustable sights or stainless steel. Really nice looking gun. The stainless is very appealing to me. Back in the 70s when I shot matches the Lyman NMA just seemed to shot right on except for the higher front sight I put on it. They were off hand matches and I loaded 20grs for 25 yards and 28 grains for 50 yards. At 25 I could shoot in the 90s with an occasional 100, but 50 yards was another story. If I stayed in the 80s I was happy. The NMA is a copy of the originals and they had short front sights because they were sighted in for a 100 yards. So a higher front sight is in order. It always amazed me how close to the X ring they'd shoot with just the grove in the top of the receiver. I had to buy a Witloe to get one with adjustable sights.
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When considering fit and finish, this Remington 1858 is on a par with Ruger Old Army I have. As for quality of the steels Uberti is using, I cannot comment. I would appreciate info about that. In that respect, Ruger Old Army is superb. As far as I found, Ruger was using same steels as on Blackhawk and Super Blackhawk.

I found info about steels Pietta is using, and apparently, parts were made from fairly soft steels. However, somebody quenched some parts from Pietta revolver, and got them quite hard. Looks like steels used were of good quality, just not heat treated.
 
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I don't need conversion cylinder. In that case, I will have to reclassify this revolver as center-firing. In EU laws are different than in USA. Much easier to get muzzle loading firearm than center-firing one. If I want 45 Colt, I will just get Ruger Blackhawk, simpler and faster than find conversion cylinder. BTW, I already have 3 revolvers in 44 Magnums; 5,5 and 7.5 Bisley-s, and 7.5 Redhawk.

When considering fit and finish, this Remington 1858 is on a par with Ruger Old Army I have. As for quality of the steels Uberti is using, I cannot comment. I would appreciate info about that. In that respect, Ruger Old Army is superb. As far as I found, Ruger was using same steels as on Blackhawk and Super Blackhawk.

I found info about steels Pietta is using, and apparently, parts were made from fairly soft steels. However, somebody quenched some parts from Pietta revolver, and got them quite hard. Looks like steels used were of good quality, just not heat treated.
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I’m going out on a limb here and saying that Uberti uses steel which is superior to that used in the originals.
 
woodnbow said:
I’m going out on a limb here and saying that Uberti uses steel which is superior to that used in the originals
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No argument there I would think. Certainly the purity of the steel would be way better. The old steels had a lot of goobers in it. (I forget the technical term) Weren't the very early revolvers made of iron? And some Confederate pistols?
 
Ugly Sauce said:
No argument there I would think. Certainly the purity of the steel would be way better. The old steels had a lot of goobers in it. (I forget the technical term) Weren't the very early revolvers made of iron? And some Confederate pistols?
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For sure everything before 1850s or so…
 
That's around six inches. Uberti's daughter (or one of them, no idea how many he had) packed that around the U.S. as a sample gun a million years ago when she was a/the sales rep. It's a ringer, perfect fit finish and function. .36 on the .44 cylinder and frame.
 
I have an uberti 58 that I proclaimed the most accurate handgun that I own.

29gr 3f (.45acp brass) under a .454 ball lubed with unsalted crisco.

Just an FYI......
Uberti centerfire revolvers are equally good. ;)
 
Armored farmer said:
I have an uberti 58 that I proclaimed the most accurate handgun that I own.

29gr 3f (.45acp brass) under a .454 ball lubed with unsalted crisco.

Just an FYI......
Uberti centerfire revolvers are equally good. ;)
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My experience with Uberti(s) has been very good accuracy. I have a SAA "Hartford Model" in .357 which is very accurate, the Remington is super accurate, as is the 1862 I have. Here's what the '62 will do, but I think I deleted all the proof of what my Remington will do, cleaning up files. DSC07477.JPG
 
Regarding your 1962, I just learned that this particular model has fluted cylinder. Is this the only BP/C&B revolver with this feature?

I never been fun of non fluted cylinder on revolvers. That's the reason I purchased 45 Colt Ruger Vaquero Bisley, stainless, after that brand new Ruger SBH 44 Magnum, and sent them to a local smith for parts swapping. On the end I've got what I wanted; 44 Magnum Bisley, stainless, with fluted cylinder https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?attachments/lflgp48-jpg.998002/ .
 
Just curious, are those revolvers "historically correct" regarding fluted cylinder, or this is something added by manufacturers of modern copies?
 
Onty said:
Just curious, are those revolvers "historically correct" regarding fluted cylinder, or this is something added by manufacturers of modern copies?
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The first 500 1860 army revolvers had fluted cylinders but the flutes were full length. The first 100 61 navies also had full flutes. These guns are not correct.
 
Colt dropped full fluted cylinders after finding the metallurgy of the time could not withstand the pressures.

ASM also made full fluted reproductions of the 1860 Army, as did Colt in its 2nd Generation F series.
Both Uberti and ASM made full fluted 1861 Navy models as well.
Pietta makes a half fluted 1860 reproduction:
https://www.dixiegunworks.com/index...e/RH0125+Dixie+Pietta+Colt+1860+Army+Revolver
Palmetto made reproductions of the 1855 Root revolver and rifle.
Their rifle reproduction had a full fluted cylinder but their version of the revolver had a smooth cylinder.

1st. Gen. full fluted 1860 Army:
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1st. Gen. full fluted 1861 Navy:
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1st. Gen. full fluted Dragoon:
https://www.morphyauctions.com/jame...uted-cylinder-referred-to-as-4th-model-35422/
 
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