My G3A3 Battle Rifle

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For patrolling, or any kind of extended carry in the field, you'll be we'll served by a modern 2-point tactical sling. The padded VCAS from Blue Force Gear is the best of breed IMO. 3-points are no longer used much, with good reason. Throw an HK hook on the front of the VCAS and you'll be good to go.

Nice rifle -- enjoy. Are you planning on adding any optics?
 
Well I never had a G3 more than about five hours.......then the German Army took it back.:)

At the time my US Army issue rifle was an M-16A1 used with M193 ball and LSA for lube. I liked the G3 a lot more than that, then.

The German Troopers indicated that though they had fewer failures with their rifles that as often as not a failure meant popping off the butt stock and flailing about to clear. Even if the "jam" was a simple failure to go full into battery. They thought our forward assist was a GOOD thing. Later G3 rifles had a "finger print" on the bolt carrier to allow the trooper to over come that last little bit of forward travel when a stoppage occurred. I was told and shown however that the stoppage was most likely to happen on a hot gun and that the finger print might well be yours in reverse image after use.....that is it functioned as a mini branding iron.

'Rad had a big ugly BFA (Blank Firing Attachment) that replaced the flash suppressor and had two settings for different sized holes and two threaded areas on the BFA for attachment......the same one being used for the G3 and Uzi. They used in the G3 a blank that had a brass base area only about half an inch long onto which a plastic "cartridge" was attached. When fired a small X on the "bullet" (not a separate part) gave way for the gasses. We salvaged the brass bases to make "Hollywood" BFAs for our M-16A1 rifles. We would cut away the plastic and if a hack saw blade were available (individuals in my squad/platoon each carried a tool for group use, like Mad Max I had a crescent wrench which came in handy for removing an replacing the M-16A1 flash suppressor) the portion of the base that held the plastic portion was cut away from the actual base area of the brass leaving a less than 1/4 inch brass disc that with the primer removed when slipped under a removed flash suppressor and the flash suppressor and the FS cranked back on gave an invisible BFA.....like in a Hollywood movie. You could really get in trouble for them.....if anyone cared and no way would I do that with my personally owned AR15 and neither should you.

Most of the German troops ignored the 100 meter range setting on the sights in day light. That setting was a large cutout with a simple notch that was too close to the eye for such a thing. It did work well for centering the whole front sight ring in for evening and early morning use at close range. We used the "2" setting for 100 and 200 meter shooting for the qualification and shooting knot award

The German troops used their slings for chow. That is the only time I saw them in use, in the chow line and keeping both hands free for eating. On marches they invariably shoved the rifles through their front pack straps across their chests. The smaller guys actually made loops of the portion of the strap used to tighten the pack and stuck the rifle high across their chests in the loops.

Panzer Grenadiers mounted in the old Marder AFVs were some times issued a fairly straight 30 round magazine I have never seen anywhere else. I never got t use one. They were intended for use in the dismount phase and final assault from the Marder.

The G3 was much less controllable to me on full auto than an M-14, your mileage may very. During summer when on a range and not wearing body armor, a field Jacket, or suspenders the G3 sometimes left an interesting bruise on the shoulder. You could see the individual horizontal gripping surfaces from the butt plate in the bruise and the out line of the butt plate.

Many of the German troops referred to our M-16A1 rifles as "Frau und Kind Gewar" that is suitable only for arming (or shooting) women and children. Many of the older German NCOs in the early 70's insisted on referring to the M-16A1 as a Machine Pistol. The ancient paratrooper First Sargent (Gosh he was younger then than I am now) that noted the similarity of the M60 GPMG to the FG42 he carried in 1944 was among the ones calling the M-16A1 a Machine Pistol at every opportunity. All the French troops I helped cross train on the G3 and M-16A1 liked the G3 better than the MAS 49/56 with grenade launcher but all liked the M-16a1 better......because of its lack of weight and recoil. Draftees. Got to love 'em.


-kBob
 
kBob

Great recollection of your time spent with our NATO allies. My brother had similar stories to tell when he was with the Sinai Peacekeeping Force. He was with the 101st Airborne and they shared weapons familiarization with the Dutch, French, and Italian forces in their area. My brother liked the Uzi the best that the Dutch Marines had.
 
VERY good information, thank you!

I am planning on maybe getting this rig:

https://www.libertytreecollectors.com/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=4177&idcategory=51

And getting four of these dual magazine pouches:

https://www.libertytreecollectors.com/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=3331&idcategory=51

I could carry eight magazines for my G3 this way, I'd get some of the aluminum mags to cut down on weight.

kBob, did you happen to notice the typical ammunition loadout the Germans used, and what they used to carry their magazines? Thanks!!
 
...My brother had similar stories to tell when he was with the Sinai Peacekeeping Force. He was with the 101st Airborne and they shared weapons familiarization with the Dutch, French, and Italian forces in their area. My brother liked the Uzi the best that the Dutch Marines had.....

Having done a tour there as well, I got to fire a belt through the MG42, which was still in use by the Italian contingent.
 
Thanks all! I just got the leather sling for now because it was so cheap. I may well get an HK three point sling in the near future.
 
Many years ago I purchased a canvas RPD gunner's 5 cell magazine pouch, which carries its magazines edgewise to the wearer, and side by side. Has belt loops and a strap which can be thrown over the neck. I think I paid $2. They are available sometimes at gunshows.

I took some plastic bags and stuffed the bottoms of the cells until the height of the shorter G3 magazines reached to the top of the cells. It is very handy.

Here's one that's a little more expensive, but purpose built.

I have both the 3 point and the simple leather carry strap. Neat thing about the 3 point is that it can be also used as a 2 point sling if you want to use it that way. The drawback to each of these slings is that they are very thin, and as a carry strap, tend to cut into the wearer a bit due to the weight of the rifle suspended from them. Though truthfully other than the, once fashionable, "cobra" type slings one could get in the 70's for his deer rifle, there really is no comfortable strap. Another neat feature of the 3 point sling is that one can use it to some extent to create supported firing positions to assist with carefully aimed fire.
 
I have been seeing magazines for as little as $2.00, surplus, but at that price, load them up, and throw away when empty!
 
Bought 40 steel mags a few years ago for $2 each. About 1/3 of them came in the wrapper still. All dated from 63-64 and either HK or Rheinmetall stamps. Had about 8 that had excess rust or bad followers. Stripped em for parts.

Last week I saw a couple aluminum mags in a LGS for $20 ea and laughed.
 
Most of the German troops ignored the 100 meter range setting on the sights in day light. That setting was a large cutout with a simple notch that was too close to the eye for such a thing. It did work well for centering the whole front sight ring in for evening and early morning use at close range. We used the "2" setting for 100 and 200 meter shooting for the qualification and shooting knot award
The G3/HK sights seem to give the uninitiated fits. Once I was shown what was what with them, it all made perfect sense.

Youre exactly right about the 0-100M setting. The small notch in the bottom of the big one works fine for normal shooting, but if youre trying to shoot groups for score, the 200M peep gives that edge.

You use the big notch and the "globe" that protects the front sight post, as your CQB sight, and just like you do any post and notch type sight. You just use the top of the globe instead of the front post.

One thing I always found interesting with that sight setting was, if you shoulder the rifle initially using the big notch and globe "sight", and then without losing your cheek weld, slowly lower your eye to the smaller notch, it and the front sight post, were almost always lined up, and on what you were sighting with the big notch and globe. As with anything German and HK, its a well thought out and usable system.

I always thought these sights were the best "combat" sight around. They are realistic in their range settings, and once set, quick and positive to adjust. I myself liked the first, or "big notch" setting and usuallt had my 91's set there.

If youre wondering how to adjust the rear sight, this is what you want..........
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You can use other methods, but usually with poor to fair success, and youll likely booger up the sight doing so. Its a PITA to do without it
 
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