My girlfriends irrational fear of guns

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while change is possible, it ain't likely

>I feel I can change her.

actually, you might be able to. And I have to emphasize the chancy aspects of "might".

My view: if she is worth keeping, convert her. If you can't convert her, and she is refusing to budge or consider divergent viewpoints, let her follow her bliss. As my M-I-L likes to say: there is a butt for every seat, and a seat for every butt. This one isn't sounding like your seat, my friend.

When I met my wife, she was 100% antigun, anti 2nd amendment, and would shake whenever she was around guns.

All that changed with two kids, two heart attacks and a failed home invasion. Oh, and a healthy fear of political persecution.

I now involve my 7 and 4 year old girls in the weekly gun cleaning, take them both shooting, and they help me compare ballistics from recovered rounds. My wife shoots the .22, and the .38 fits well in her hand. She has had to call the police enough times in our quiet and "safe" neighborhood to know that modern living is risky, and the police take a while to get there.

On compromise: In my house, the firearms are either on our person or locked up. This is my "Fifth Rule", and it was my own. My daughters are far to curious to leave guns lying about unattended. Just keep in mind that if it isn't on you, you can' use it. That maxim is true no matter what you use to defend yourself: baseball bat, mace, golf putter, sjambok, or the candlestick in the study.

Good Luck. Hard decision. Don't envy you :-\
 
give her an idea of what its like to be given an ultimatum. no one likes to taste their own medicine but it may, just may open her mind up to your perspective. if she cant or refuses to understand you then im with the other ppl on here. out of 6 billion ppl in this world, youll have a chance to share your passion of guns with someone else.
 
I _sincerely_ second the concept of checking out JR's 'blog...

*guns are used for killing
*if you have a gun in the house, an accident will most likely happen
*someone will steal the gun and kill somebody
*regulation of guns keeps them out of bad guys hands
*"you dont need a gun"
*once your a cop you can keep your gun at the dept.

and then the shocker...."its either me or the guns"

If guns are for killing, then I've got a whole buncha things that constantly malfunction...

Expect accidents, be paranoid about safety, and you don't have to worry about accidents. But always expect them. Frankly, and Doc will vouch for me here, my table saw scares me a LOT more than my AR-15s...

If someone can open my safe, I don't think they're gonna need a gun to kill someone.

Regulation supports black markets. And criminals are, by definition, criminal. If a criminal wants a firearm, he will acquire it - remember the late sixties/early seventies, when "peace" groups raided national guard armories for automatic weaponry?

Hey, I've needed a gun in the past, and you know something? I've always found it better to have something, and not need it, than to need it, and not have it (thank you to the fabulous furry freak brothers...).

Police are, in most areas, expected to be armed 24/7.

Her or the guns? Can she protect against muggers, rapists, terrorists, etc? Then by all means, lose the guns. But if she says that she'll just dial 911, suggest that she get a checkup from the neckup, and that she can call you when she's coherent.
 
If ultimatums are allowed, the proper response to "me or the guns" is "me and the guns". Then she has to choose and not pawn the decision off on you.
 
Man, I thought I had it bad when my ex gf didn't like shooting the FA MP5 :rolleyes:

"Me or the guns!"
"Wow, your friend just got a lot hotter all of a sudden!"

Seriously, since you apparently don't have plans to get married right away you still have time to wear her down/educate her. Good women are hard to find, and there's no reason to get rid of this one if she's admitted her mistake and accepted that she is ignorant and in need of training. She did say she'd go to the range with you, right? I can't remember, I just read the whole thread and it's all blending together now :uhoh:
 
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the curb

you said you can "change her" :barf:

I say "trade her" for a open, & like minded woman :)

there are a lot of women who own and enjoy firearms, take Amy for example
she is one MANY!!!!!!

move on dude!!!!!

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She's been Clintonized

She is the victim of Clintinist propaganda. There is hope, but it might take a concerted effort by you and your gun friends including other girl gun lovers. Try to take her shooting with some friends (while you are still allowed to have some). Show her the fun of hitting a bullseye and plinking tin cans. Maybe even start with a BB gun.
If she's really a good cook, attractive, and/or a good s---w, (at least two or more, a good cook and ----) she might be worth the effort. If she just wants to control you, dump her like poison ivy. Save yourself for a worthy woman, and from a closet communist. If you're a communist, commit suicide!
 
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