My parents are anti-gun...what do I do?

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Thanks for the advice everyone. It all just keeps coming. Good stuff :)

Right now, I'm not sure if I can move out just yet. Since I graduated high school in 2007, I've been doing nothing. Only just found a job this september, and it didn't work out. This new job I have is part time, and I get a lot of benefits with the company, one being some schollarship if I choose to go to college.

Next year, I'll be enrolling for college, and I think - with my new job and the pay I'll get - I can afford to pay my own fees.

As for moving out, it may not be the best idea because of money, but I do not like it here at home. I'm miserable, and nothing is going to change unless I do something myself...

It's going to be difficult. But then, they say that difficult things are more worthwhile than the easy things, right?

Thanks for all your support.

Andrew
 
If you do get room-mate(s) be sure any guns you have are locked in a very secure safe. I would say buy the safe first. The last thing you need is one of your room mates or their friends causing trouble with one of your guns.

That is a place you don't want to go.

If you do keep it at your uncle's place, again keep it in your own safe.
 
My parents were also anti-gun. I got a job, moved out, and have since bought all the guns I wanted. (Almost.)

We don't talk about it.
 
I think I would agree with those who have said you should respect their views. Obey their rules as long as you live with them, and move out when you are able.
 
1. "State laws govern the possession and use of firearms in Australia. These laws were largely aligned under the 1996 National Agreement on Fireams. Anyone wishing to possess or use a firearm must have a Firearms Licence and be over the age of 18 with some exceptions. Owners must have secure storage for their firearms." You can legally own a handgun age wise. As for Mom and Dad, they rule as long as you're under their roof.

2. As someone mentioned, find a room mate who harbors no ill will towards firearms and move in with them. If they enjoy the gun culture..so much the better! Good luck!
 
They expect me to grow up - and I will - but they're forcing me to do it faster than I will.

I'm old enough to be your father - but I was once as self-centered and immature a 19-year-old as you apparently are.

Get a clue. You are NOT grown up yet (by your own admission). You need to grow up FIRST - and then move out, support yourself, and make your own rules in your own home. End of discussion. Period.
 
The issues you are dealing with are much bigger than the disagreement over owning a gun. You are rankling under your parent/stepparents' control, and wanting to spread your wings. This is pretty natural, and will be assisted by going away to school.

Meanwhile, you need to develop independent means by getting good employment and working hard, as many hours as you can. When you are on solid financial ground, you can begin to call the shots and you begin to understand that there is a high price to be paid for freedom and self determination. If it is worth it to you, get out and get busy. Video games won't get you what you really want. Working hard at a decent job will.

Start the planning process, see what you will need to accomplish your goals, and go for it. The current situation sounds as if it has everyone frustrated. Only you can change it, through hard work and determination. Once you've shown yourself that you can do it, you can get on with more important things, like finding a girlfriend that doesn't have .jpg after her name. :p
 
If it is their house then you have to respect their opinion as it pertains to bringing guns into their home. If you have your own home do what you please and be a good example of a responsible firearm owner
 
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Natural Marksman,

Find yourself an older responsible and respected shooter at the range you use. I'm sure there is someone there who everyone knows and likes and probably seeks advice from from time to time. Those kind of guys are generally more than happy to help new comers to the sport. Your parents would probably aprove of someone like that too.

Introduce yourself, explain the situation and ask for his help. Maybe he could keep your weapon for you, teach you what you need to learn, and even run interference with your folks.

It is worth a try.......
 
to Rainbowbob...

I never said that I am grown up. I know I have a lot of growing up to do. What I was saying is that right now it feels like I'm just going round in circles, and that the most effective solution to my problems is to move out and learn on my own.

I've been dealing with a bit of crap in my life for a while now. I guess I just don't know who I am, and I'm struggling.

I say this as politely and respectfully as possible, but you can't make assumptions on what kind of person I am based on words I've written on a screen. You don't know me, so you can't really know how self-centred or immature I actually am.

Know that I was not trying to be hostile or sarcastic in my words.

Andrew
 
Andrew:

Rainbowbob's got the right idea, though....

My first rule (actually, my first four rules :)) is "Don't burn any bridges".... Suffer in silence, if necessary, until you can get yourself in a place where you can move out and support yourself in someplace that won't turn out to resemble a trash pile.

(My daughter's first apartment, and bear in mind that she'd been out of the house for a year, living with my sister in another city and going to school, AND employed, was a disaster. Her roommates, except for one, couldn't be trusted to not borrow her clothes, food, etc., and the place was a mess. She spent about three days cleaning the place when she invited us to visit, and couldn't get rid of the HUGE beer kegs in the back yard. Fortunately, my wife didn't know what they were :D.... As it turned out, she and three other girls were renting what amounted to half a duplex, and there were four to six boys renting the other half. They were responsible for the beer.... But all of her clothes spent the year, when not in use or in the wash, in her car's trunk. She learned.... Becka spent the next year back at my sister's place, and now splits a small house with her cat, and a guy with a dog & cat. The boy likes boys, so there's nothing going on there :). No other issues - he was already a friend of hers.)

In our case, Becka made a conscious decision to get out of town, and had everything else fairly well sewn up, at least as well as a 19-year-old could. (Guess who helped with the rent and her tuition....) About the only "issue" was "Daddy, I've decided to go to school in Columbus. Wanna help me carry the TV to my car?" A few questions later and I carried the TV....

The point of this, other than "we lucked out" is that she left on friendly terms, had some idea of how she'd live, and where she'd live. Meantime, a "lifeline" of sort in my little sister (who's a grandmother - Becka babysits the grandkids that live in town there), and a solid relationship with us, 175 miles away....

It's true that "absence makes the heart grow fonder", or at least did in our case - I had few problems with her, but she and my wife were always at loggerheads over something or other. Not anymore.... (I had the same sort of situation with my dad when I moved out - got thrown out, actually - some 35 years ago. I don't think we ever really settled all of that - he was jealous of my income at that age - but there was some mutual respect, and it was mostly easy for me to live with it when we weren't bumping into each other constantly.)

As to being self-centered or immature, at 19, that's kind of normal.... You may outgrow it :)....

So, try to leave on friendly terms, and not before you have some sort of plan to survive....

PLAN, too, on disasters.... Even minor stuff can make you crazy the night before a major exam, for example. Finding your only clean shirt is in the back seat of your car and it's 20 degrees (Farenheit) outside can be a great surprise.... Finding that the car's frozen over and you can't get into it is even more fun.... Mostly, though, you'll find yourself short of money, late getting a payment in, etc. Make sure you've got stuff like that covered....

Mostly, in the final analysis, it's "live and learn".... That which doesn't kill us usually makes us stronger, but you really have to experience some of this to learn how to deal with it. If you've done your homework, you should be able to survive, but don't expect to not ask mom for a half-gallon of soup or something like that should you get sick, run out of lunch money, etc.

Regards,
 
LoL my parents where kinda of Anti, not really opposed just not for it.
Asked em for a rifle for my birthday, didn't get it, told em I was buying my own, they said dont, I bought it and they didnt really care.

When I told em I was going to buy my 2nd one out of no where my father brings out a unfired at least 10 year old Ruger 10/22 in the original factory box, with a price tag of $150. Sold it to me for his original purchase price.
 
Know that I was not trying to be hostile or sarcastic in my words.

Andrew:
Nor am I, and I apoligize if my post came off that way. What I'm saying is that MOST young people are self-centered and immature by nature. I know I certainly was. You have recognized that you have a lot of growing up to do. Your parents undoubtedly recognize that as well. They know - and you should know - that acquiring firearms is not going to help you grow up. In fact, until you ARE grown up emotionally, you should probaly not handle firearms without adult supervision. I mean no disrespect by that. I admit to a certain bias here as my own son has a severe mental illness and I would not be comfortable with him owning firearms, or for that matter, a car. Fortunately, he has never indicated much interest in either, so that has not been a problem.

If your parents refuse to allow you to bring firearms into their home - they have an absolute right to do so. You - and they - will be able to accept your autonomy on this and other issues when you have demonstrated you can run your own life. That means nothing less than obtaining complete independance by holding a job and establishing your own home. Then - and only then - will you be in a position to make your own rules.

Good luck. It won't happen for you overnight - but it will happen if you are determined to make it happen.
 
what are their reasons? i did the whole buy a gun without my parents permission thing...then they found out and the gun spent the next year in the safe. i would advise against getting it without their knowledge. bring it to their attention that you want one for whatever reason. find reasons to support your view, there are plenty on the internet. ask them what their points are and research good, logical answers to them.

while you are in their house, generally you have to play by their rules. that being said, as has been mentioned, you can move out.

just try to do it in a way that doesn't ruin your relationship with your parents.
 
Rainbowbob...

Ok then. I'm sorry for getting a little defensive.

I didn't want to get a gun to help me grow up or anything. I just want one to start shooting as a hobbie.

I wanted to move out because my parents want me to learn, but their method of teaching is to throw you into the deep end and let you figure it out yourself.
They don't really teach me. They complain about my lazy attitude and all that daily, that I just don't learn. They kicked out my twin sister a year ago, she's still struggling to learn but they won't allow me to leave.
Sometimes it feels like it'd be better living under a bridge rather than here at home. I'll just have to take your advice and suffer in silence for that much longer. Thanks man :)


LightningJoe...

When I told my parents that I wanted to join the Army...well...they weren't impressed :D
They said that I can do whatever I wanted in life except the military or anything where I'd be putting my life in danger. Fair enough, I accept that I live in their house and all that stuff, but it's something I wanted to do, and I'm old enough to be allowed to do it without their consent.
If they'd have said they were ok with it, I'd be training in with the Army right now.
Besides, I'm not fit enough for the Army. I've been at home for a year doing nothing. My stamina is not what it used to be - but that can be fixed.


Finding a job has been really difficult. I've not ever had much luck in that area, but I will work as often as possible


Thanks everyone

Andrew
 
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