My ugly new 1991A1 Colt, (Blood damaged)

[marksman13]

Most of you guys sound just like the anti gun crowd. "I wouldn't want a gun that killed someone." "That's just creepy." "Bad JooJoo on that gun." Give me a break. The gun didn't do a damn thing. It was just an inanimate abject that was used to kill someone. The pistol didn't just hop out of the dresser one morning and go on a shooting spree. All this supersticious crap is for the birds. There is nothing inherently evil about the pistol. Would I buy a car that had killed a child? Ummmm...first of all, I don't think I have ever seen a car that took off down the highway looking for a toddler to smash. Second of all, what does it matter what was done with the car/pistol before I had it? Some of you guys have some mighty strange beliefs about karma and old wives tales and what not.

 

[wditto]

"What would be the best way to 'arrest' the rust?"
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well if you can find navel jelly, it works well......if not, lowes or home depot will have something.....just be sure you have a can of WD-40 handy so after you remove the "rust-remover", you an INSTANTLY spray it down, drown it, to prevent even worse rusting.....then, choose some unique finish or coating to protect it....my choice would be a clear coat like super-glue or a dura-coat clear....I really like the thing,, but you should see what I look like....

 

[DerbyDale]

At the risk of sounding Anti-Gun... That thing does creep me out.

 

[Vitamin G]

To me it sounds as if it were the murder VICTIMS gun, not the murder weapon!

I can't believe no one brought that up before. I mean, why would a murderer kill someone, and then toss his gun (evidence) into a pool of the victims blood? Just doesn't make sense. It has to be the gun of the victim, who bled onto the gun he was using to defend himself. (Unless something really nuts occurred)

 

[Joe Demko]

I mean, why would a murderer kill someone, and then toss his gun (evidence) into a pool of the victims blood? Just doesn't make sense.

You're confusing the way things happen in the movies with the way things happen in real life. The vast majority of murders aren't committed by calculating, savvy criminals.
How's this sound: Cletus the Substance Abuser, a man of limited intelligence, and his live-in girfriend, also a substance abuser, have a fight. One of many. This time, he's drunk/stoned/both enough to kill her. After he shoots her, he drops the gun in horror. It lands in the puddle of blood spreading around her. He even calls 911 because he doesn't know what else to do. When emergency services arrive, he's still there crying and blubbering and fairly incoherent.

It has to be the gun of the victim, who bled onto the gun he was using to defend himself.

Possibly; but murderers and their targets are quite frequently known to each other through shared criminal activity. Don't assume the victim is an innocent victim of an evil person. Dirtbag-on-dirtbag murder is far, far more common than dirtbag-on-innocent-victim murder.. When mobsters and gangbangers get charged with murder, for example, it's quite often other mobsters and gangbangers they are charged with killing.

 

[Feanaro]

It looks like a stuck pig squirted all over that one. If nothing else, the $300 got you a helluva conversation piece, as evidenced by this thread.

 

[sonyman74]

Blood damage from what, an Alien?

 

[Dragonboy]

I think it looks really cool, but I wouldn't shoot it, too much chance of failure.

to all the "the gun is cursed" people, what the heck?

 

[outofbattery]

There is a very good chance that at least one of my mil surps has killed someone in combat,but I would have zero interest in all in a gun known to have been used in a murder or suicide,especially if the thing is covered in evidence of gore.I'm not superstitious by any means but I wouldn't want that connection.Some people are into such things;there are many out there who collect serial killer memorobilia even.While I don't believe objects become tainted or otherwise animated,I personally would want nothing to do with that gun.I honestly don't see it as anything other than a gore relic,it's impossible for me to believe that anyone would buy it simply because it was a cheap ( and not very at that) 1911 anymore than I'd believe someone would willingly drive a crashed car someone obviously died in.To each their own though.


A friend of mine got an almost too good to be true deal on an apartment in China Town in NYC.Nobody had wanted that particular apartment as the prior tennants had been herded into the back bedroom and executed.I wasn't told this until he'd moved but there is a good chance I wouldn't have spent the night there had I known this,at least I know for a fact that sleeping would have been impossible.

 

[R12GS]

I agree with the above. I'm not the least bit interested in retaining a weapon used in a murder/homicide.

That thing is absolutely butchered. I would not fire nor even rely upon it to work when needed. Those are some deep gouges in the frame.

 

[vzenmn]

The pitting is real gory looking. I would'nt care less if a gun I buy in a way you purchased was used in a murder just as long as it is in good condition and priced right. I just don't creeped out easily. But I would'nt give 50 dollars for that ugly thing if it was used to kill Jimmy Hoffa and came with a video tape and four writen confessions to prove it.

 

[w_houle]

I would have bought it, maybe it would be a little stupid of me to give a spin on the story so others wouldn't be creeped out by it, but over all it doesn't look to be in too bad of shape. If given a good bill of health by my gunsmith I wouldn't have a problem shooting it either

 

[TimboKhan]

The vast majority of murders aren't committed by calculating, savvy criminals.

If I may pontificate a bit, I would also point out that the vast majority of gun owners haven't trained at Thunder Ranch and are generally ill suited towards defending themselves with any gun, pistol or otherwise.

If this was the victims gun (which doesn't seem to be the case) it brings with it some very important lessons: Guns aren't magic wands that will keep you safe. Train as best you can as often as you can. Under the assumption that it's the victims pistol, it's also worth pointing out that this nice Colt pistol didn't save the victim. Gear isn't whats most important, training is. The guy that practices with his Hi-Point is way better off than the guy that has never shot his Nighthawk Custom.

 

[revamp]

Not only is the whole thing creepy, but as others have stated, the gun isn't even safe to fire. Therefore, someone has to wonder what the true intention of spending over $300 on it was. Most likely, it was to have the gruesome conversation piece, which in my opinion is weird.

Yes, guns are tools...I agree. But neither would I live in a house that was the scene of a murder, nor would purchase a sword that some samurai committed suicide with, nor would I feel comfortable looking off a bridge or balcony after being told a story of someone jumping off there.

Call me superstitious and silly, but purposefully searching out and spending money on an item surrounded by the aura of death is outside the realm of what most of modern society would consider normal.

 

[gbelleh]

To me, there is no problem buying a gun/sword/house that has had a gruesome past as long as the item is undamaged and still useable. But...this 1911's damage is extreme no matter how it happened. The fact it was used (as a tool by a human who committed murder) is irrelevant, but I wouldn't want a pistol damaged to that extent period.

 

[Combat Controller]

All the superstition aside, I understand that you bought it as a "California Gun", and 1911's can be hard to come by for a reasonable price. Or any gun for that matter. I would have a gunsmith take a good look at it, rather than firing it and seeing if it will blow up. A smith can replace parts or make recommendations prior to a kaboom that may cause damage that makes it totally scrap, instead of just one part. The slide looks like it needs the most help, it may be too compromised. The inside of the gun is what I would take a good long look at, the barrel, lock up, etc. with new small parts and possibly a slide and some abatement on the slide stop hole you might just have a shooter.

I would be real leery of just loading it up and shooting though. Don't destroy your "bargain" gun. Take a few precautions first, you have 16,000 PSI going off real close to your vitals there...

 

[fishingjld]

wow....um i am thinking this is really cool. i mean who cares why he purchased it. i would say enjoy it. it's yours.

 

[BobbyQuickdraw]

To everyone who thinks he paid too much, be thankful you don't live in California. Some gun shops here charge you $130 transfer fees, $35 DROS Fees, $19 registration fees, etc etc.

If you're lucky, you'll only spend $80 in fees. One place in Burbank the total cost in just fees comes out to like $180 for an out of state transfer.

 

[Tarvis]

As long as it shoots good enough, it would make a great truck gun. I don't know if I would have bought it or not, but I do know that my 1991a1 is a great pistol. I can't believe the blood trashed it that bad though, it is a true shame. Worked out good for you I suppose .

Anyone have any beat up mags that would match the gun?

I suppose it would fit with the persona of the gun, but I would probably use good mags so you don't have a problem with FTF's. Or, you could try making your own "blood mags"... just a thought.

 

[1911NM]

Man, that thing looks like it done someone in by a bad pistol whipping. Whatever one wants to read into the story, the OP wanted this piece, and good for him. I would have a good smith check it out, and replace what is needed to make it safe. As to the story, I guess I don't have much room to judge. I bought a Ruger Blackhawk .357 from a friend whose wife had knocked it off a table while dusting and shot herself in the stomach. Peritonitis (sp) almost did her in. Holster went with the gun, with the obviously unintentional "open end". Sold it years later, but as the whole scenario had been accidental, I never gave it a second thought other than to keep an empty under the hammer.

 

[wig]

if it was the sidearm of a post apocalyptic hero, it would be an H&K MK23, it would be dirty but not pitted.

Sorry - I agree with most - $50. TOPS.

 

[Bazooka Joe71]

That is weird what the blood did to the gun...Quite sad, considering one day that was a beautiful piece...

To each his own, but I could not have dropped $354 on it either.

 

[roguetek]

Ajax -for getting the rust -out- and I mean -out- look into a process called 'reverse electroplating.'

 

[AJAX22]

Also, are you serious? $130.00 transfer fee? There is a guy here in town that owns a pawnshop that only charges like 10 bucks to me to transfer guns.

Yep, its true.

Alot of CA gunshops view internet/private party sales as 'cutting into their buisness' so they charge over the top fees to discourage you from buying stuff online or shopping around.

The state itself charges $25 just to process the paperwork, then depending on where you go, for out of state transfers it can run anywhere from $30-$120 in ADITIONAL fees.

So even if the gun was free, you can still wind up paying $145 for it.

My FFL is a geat guy who works out of his house, and charges $35 per set of paperwork, + $20 per gun that is on the paperwork (each handgun requires its own set of paperwork, and you are limited to one per month purchased through a dealer) so the $55 that I pay is among the lowest fee you can find for this service anywhere in the state.

Guns cost more (a LOT more) in CA

 

[texagun]

"To everyone who thinks he paid too much, be thankful you don't live in California. Some gun shops here charge you $130 transfer fees"

I am constantly amazed by the anti-gun policies of California. I don't understand why anyone would voluntarily choose to live there. Firearm transfer fees around here range from $10-$25.