My ugly new 1991A1 Colt, (Blood damaged)

[AJAX22]

Some of us were born here, have family here, go to school here, have obligations in state, take care of family property etc.

Be glad that some of us are holding the line here in CA, If the anti's didn't have us to fight here in-state, they'd turn their attention to the rest of you.

Back on subject though, I haven't been able to find a good description of how to go about reverse electroplating to remove and halt the rust process.

 

[blo0dyhatchet]

That pistol is sweet. Very different, and I would have bought it as well. I like how it looks, and would not care about its past.

 

[RancidSumo]

Well if you like it, thats great but it looks kind of crappy to me.

 

[2Ais4U]

My brother bought a cavalier that someone was murdered in, then I bought it from him. He left the back seat the same as it was when he bought it, bullet holes, blood and all, I changed it out, I figured it was better to spend the extra cash than have to convince a LEO that i wasn't the one that killed a guy in the backseat. Stuff with a gruesome history is cheaper, I would buy a gun, house, knife, car, or anything with a gruesome history if the price was right, I liked/needed it, and it worked.

 

[Combat Controller]

Here it is for bore cleaning.

http://www.lovemyguns.com/

Some other helpful sites with the info and some equipment. You can always WECSOG it though.

http://www.extrudehone.com/ecm_faq.php

http://www.kebaili.com/cat_electrodeposition.cfm

 

[peacemaker45]

If your offended, sorry.

You just made another one. That should have been "you're."

As far as the the gun itself goes, have it checked by a smith BEFORE you shoot the thing. Most of the places where they put metal on a firearm, they do so for a reason. It doesn't really matter what a gun looks like, as long as it is mechanically sound, does it?

As for the story, who cares? Isn't this the same crowd that preaches "Guns don't kill people, people kill people?" It seems to me, that even if guns did kill people, this poor thing has certainly suffered for its crime.

On another note, I had a gun with a similar past, once. XD-45 Tactical. Buddy of mine shot himself in the head with it, cops kept it for half of forever, then returned it to his widow. I wound up with it, but not having a real use for it, cleaned it up, and sold it. That thing made my gubmint models look like pocket pistols, size wise. Anyhow, with a little cleaning, it was as good as new. Thank goodness for Melonite.

~~~Mat

 

[AJAX22]

I just heard back from my FFL, The pistol is in his safe, and in his woreds "its.......unique..."

I'm meeting him this evening and starting DROS. After that its a 10 day countdown untill it comes home with me and gets cleaned up.

So I get a week and a half to scrounge up a holster accessories etc. then its time for more pics, inspection, and if everything checks out, some quality range time.

Thanks for the links, I'd never thought to clean a gun that way, it looks prety simple and straightforward.

 

[Ermac]

congrats on the "new" pistol AJAX22

I would ignore some of the other posters on here about it being a murder weapon. Some of the posters probably forgot to take in consideration some of the milsurp rifles / handguns they own. At least a good portion of them were probably used in some war and I can almost be positive that some of them killed people too. If you wanted the pistol, enjoy! A gun is a gun is a gun.

When you get it, post some pics of the internals. I'm really curious as to what it looks like on the inside.

 

[AJAX22]

I've started DROS, held the pistol, checked it over (not as well as I would have liked to but It was 7pm in my FFL's living room and I didn't want to impose any longer than I had to)

The breachface is clear of any pitting (it looks like it had a round in the chamber as there is no discoloration on the contact surface, but the area around it is dark.

the chamber looks to be in good shape. There is a dark spot inside the bore that might be trouble, but I won't know untill I really clean the barrel (possibly trying that reverse electroplating thing)

The frame is in great shape, the pitting looks bad in pics, but I've seen engraving that was deeper, the only DEEP pitting is on the dustcover area and that really is as deep as it looks.

It doesn't appear that there is any pitting or major discoloration to the internals, the rails are in perfect shape as are most of the sealed areas of the gun.

there is some light surface rust on the feed ramp, but it looks to be fresh (possibly happened in transit) and isn't dark or pitted.

Worst case scenario here is that I have to replace the barrel. everything else, all engagement surfaces, all structural areas look to be perfectly functional.

It does need a good cleaning though, the trigerpull wasn't bad, but it did feel kind of sticky.

Now the waiting period begins.....

 

[Freshgrease]

I think it is purdy. If you don't want it, I'll buy it from you for a reasonable price (and won't mind not going through a FFL).

 

[Combat Controller]

Well, just because the surface is not so deep it does not mean that it is not weakened. I would get a hexaflouride test or similar and check for micro cracking and weakness. I am glad it is not as bad as it looks, but be careful!

 

[R12GS]

deer huh? Mine looked just like that.

 

[03Shadowbob]

I didn't know guns killed people. I thought it was the shooter that killed someone.
I wouldn't have bought the gun for that much, maybe $100 but to think that an inanimate object can somehow harbour bad spirits or bad karma is just silly. That is like thinking if you dropped that gun in holy water blessed by the Pope himself that the water would start boiling and steaming. That is just one man's opinion anyways.

 

[Paradiddle]

Frighteningly ugly, superstitious, and backward posts on this thread. I'm more concerned about the overall common sense of the US gun owner then the condition of this pistol or how it got that way.

Jeeze - I thought THR was a bit more progressive in its thinking.

 

[CPshooter]

Frighteningly ugly, superstitious, and backward posts on this thread. I'm more concerned about the overall common sense of the US gun owner then the condition of this pistol or how it got that way.

Jeeze - I thought THR was a bit more progressive in its thinking.

I'm not to sure why this is a big deal. Sure, we're all looking at a POS 1911 that has pits eaten away at it from blood, but who cares? I mean I personally wouldn't want to own a gun that killed someone, but hey some people just don't mind. It's not like he's the one who did the dirt. He just happens to own a gun that's had a troubled past. Kinda cool in a freaky, weird way. Just not for me. My $350 dollars would have gone to something way more practical and in way better condition. The only way I'd take this 1911 is if someone payed ME to have it. Even $20 bucks would be just fine

The funny thing is that a gun from WWI or WWII that killed dozens of people, possibly even American soldiers, would be praised and worth a lot of money!

 

[ASM826]

Karma does not attach to objects. It's a gun. How many of us own mil-spec rifles and handguns? Ever wonder where yours saw action, and what it was called on to do?

I wouldn't want to pay that much for it because of the damaged finish, but I wouldn't throw it away if it was given to me.

 

[Bazooka Joe71]

Kind of off topic, but for comparative purposes, how much does say a CZ75SP01 or a XD.45 service run?

I ask because some of you Californians were ranting about how much higher firearm prices are and I just want to know by how much(or what %).


It doesn't sound fun either way.

 

[AJAX22]

A used CZ75 runs about $419 + 35 fees + $7 mandatory gun lock + gas to drive and get it (usually a 20-40 min drive to get to a FFL, there are only a handfull in LA where I live)

A used XD40 runs about $420 + 35 fees + $7 mandatory gun lock + gas

a used colt series 80 runs about $650 if you can find one +35 in fees + $7 mandatory gun lock.

don't believe me? check it out

http://www.turners.com/shop/gunlisting.php

 

[John C]

Dollars in California are like dog years everywhere else. Ajax22 got a good deal, when you consider that he really paid like $175 for it if it were outside California.

It's the same logic by which a friend of mine paid $700,000 for his 1200 square foot house that doesn't even have central heating, much less a view or air conditioning. But, on the coldest day of the year a few days ago, he was picking oranges off the orange tree in his yard. And the reason he doesn't have air conditioning in his house, is because he doesn't need it in the summer time.

I'm not defending it, just telling the way it is.

-John

 

[Markbo]

Jeeze - I thought THR was a bit more progressive in its thinking.

So what are you saying? That we are all not liberal enough?

It's kinda groovy.

I rest my case.

 

[Mauserguy]

For California, the price was fair. I would just replace any inoperable parts and shoot the devil out of it.
Mauserguy

 

[ralfus]

Sandblast it and parkerize it. This worked for the US military for decades.
It won't be a conversation piece anymore though.



If any of you had bought this pistol new, and it was used by you to kill the naked guy holding a knife in your 6 year old child's bedroom, would you still want it when returned from the evidence room in this condition?

 

[Arch]

That's certainly not a thing of beauty anymore.

Perhaps it could serve as a reminder as to the destructive potential of our pistols when not used and enjoyed responsibly, and for the right reasons...

Either way I'm glad you like it mate. I would have had it crushed. The only thing creepier than that pistol would be keeping the guy's preserved hand as a paperweight.

 

[SouthpawShootr]

FWIW, the written word "God" without capitalization is exceedingly incorrect and offensive to people who believe.

Well, some people intentionally leave it with a lowercase g when they are writing outside a religious context as a concession to those who would be offended and even to God himself. "I typed god but I didn't mean God." Sort of like taking a god's name in vain rather than THE God's name in vain.

Back on topic. I haven't read everything here, but I wonder if a gunsmith would categorize this gun as safe. If it is, it's the perfect cadidate for one of those melt jobs. Some 'smiths are exceedingly talented at turning an oops into an asset. I once saw a S&W 29-3 at a local shop for $500. One side was pristine. The other side looked as if the blueing had been stripped in places giving it a "splotchy" appearance. Talking to the shop owner (who I've known for at least a decade), I learned that the original owner had committed suicide with this gun and it had been in evidence for a while before given back to the family. I passed on it b/c the action was exceedingly gritty and rough. No telling what the inside was like.

 

[murph50]

I would just clean it up--have a gunsmith check it out and if it's ok --shoot it.
BTW--Bactine ought to clean it up real good