Need help identifying two powder? measuring tools

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These very well made, but unmarked, tools came recently in a box of misc handloading stuff. They appear to be volumetric measuring devices, maybe for powder. The cylinders are brass, rods are stainless?, and the locking devices are steel. The long one has graduations from 0 to 50 and the shorter one has same graduations from 0 to 35. Spacing on the graduation tick-marks is 0.067". The longer cylinder is 4.13" long x 0.5" OD x 0.375" ID, and the shorter tool is 3.12" long with same diameters.
Who made these? When? What is their purpose?
 

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Powder measure for black powder.

Yup, or replica black powder substitutes. They're all loaded by VOLUME, not by weight. They could be made by any number of vendors catering to the black powder shooters.
 
Those are the rifle and pistol volume tubes for a Belding & Mull Powder Measure. They were inserted into the bottom of the measure, and then the handle was pulled, dropping the preset volume of powder into the tube. The tube is then used to transfer the powder to the case, normally through a powder funnel. You set the volume with the sliding insert and lock nut on the tube.

Hope this helps.

Fred
 
No problem. What you have is the adjustable measuring tube from a Belding & Mull powder measure. The longer tube is what they called the "Magnum" tube for larger powder charges. The tube, once adjusted, which was done trial & error with a scale, is simply held in place under the main unit and the lever pulled, filling the tube. Which in turn was dumped into the cartridge case. This system is quite accurate and was once widely used by Benchrest shooters. Your question is: where's the rest of the tool?
Attaching some pics of the complete tool more or less set up to use, plus cover picture on box, which clearly shows how it works.
 

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