I want to set up my CZ 452 Trainer (.22LR) to shoot POA/POI up to 200 yards. I’m primarily using Wolf Match Target ammo (1050 fps). The scope setup is pretty basic, as shown in the photo below: A Weaver 6.5-20 with adjustable parallax and a basic cross-hair (no holdover marks).
I zeroed at 25 yards and adjusted elevation to get me to the longer ranges. I’m able to shoot POA/POI from 50 feet to 100 yards with no problem, by adjusting the elevation turret. But at 200 yards, I run out of elevation. The Wolf ammo is impacting about 20 inches below POA. (So, I am around 10 MOA short in elevation adjustment, if I understand MOA correctly.)
Interestingly, I tried CCI Mini-Mag 36 gr at 200 yards out of curiosity, and it only impacted at around 5 inches below POA. So I was able to hit a steel gong 12 inches high at that distance by holding at the top of the gong. But I would prefer more precision and less holdover.
Which brings me to my question. Based on my research, it seems I have three options, although I am not crazy about the third one:
1) Buy this 20 MOA base, which fits the CZ’s narrow (11mm) receiver groove. This will build in 20 MOA to my scope. Price: $90.
https://www.egwguns.com/hd-cz-452-453-511-512-3-8-picatinny-rail-20-moa
2) Buy a set of Burris XTR Signature Rings (can adjust up to 40 MOA) for $85 or a set of Zee Rings (can adjust up to 20 MOA) for $45. Both adjust MOA via plastic inserts. Add another $10 for a conversion rail that converts the 11mm groove to handle Weaver rings or Picatinny.
https://www.amazon.com/Burris-420223-Rings-Height-Matte/dp/B00U1AVEY0/ref=sr_1_1?gclid=Cj0KCQjw4uaUBhC8ARIsANUuDjW9C43zK_bhGNVSDVF7Y0tOZCA-9gRO_n7Ow4bdzSu-4MDoGLuN2qcaAoS5EALw_wcB&hvadid=581402648780&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9006759&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=142628337169196678&hvtargid=kwd-321540335926&hydadcr=9660_9895651&keywords=xtr+signature+rings&qid=1654301770&s=sporting-goods&sr=1-1&th=1
https://www.amazon.com/Burris-Optics-Signature-Pos-Align-Inserts/dp/B0002IL19Y/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=2RG7AUKBB30ZO&keywords=burris+zee+rings&qid=1654301960&s=sporting-goods&sprefix=burris+zee+ri,sporting,69&sr=1-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFFNDIxMVdTQldDMUImZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTAxMDc5NDMyNVY0UzE3MFZLS1FSJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAxODI3MjMxQ0oyRUVYWUc0WU1IJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==
3) I have a Burris 4.5-14 Fullfield E1 scope with holdover marks, but there is no guarantee that the marks will align with any "whole-number" distances, so I think I have ruled out this option.
The pro of the EGW rail is that it’s simple, and I can use any rings I want with it. The possible con is whether 20 MOA will be sufficient for my purposes and still enable me to shoot from 50 feet to 200 yards.
The pro of the XTR rings is that they provide tons of MOA, more than I will need.
What are your thoughts and opinions of these options to solve my problem (assuming they would do so), preferably based on your actual experience? Are there other options I am missing?
I'm new at this stuff, so try to keep your answers at the 6th grade level.
Thanks
I zeroed at 25 yards and adjusted elevation to get me to the longer ranges. I’m able to shoot POA/POI from 50 feet to 100 yards with no problem, by adjusting the elevation turret. But at 200 yards, I run out of elevation. The Wolf ammo is impacting about 20 inches below POA. (So, I am around 10 MOA short in elevation adjustment, if I understand MOA correctly.)
Interestingly, I tried CCI Mini-Mag 36 gr at 200 yards out of curiosity, and it only impacted at around 5 inches below POA. So I was able to hit a steel gong 12 inches high at that distance by holding at the top of the gong. But I would prefer more precision and less holdover.
Which brings me to my question. Based on my research, it seems I have three options, although I am not crazy about the third one:
1) Buy this 20 MOA base, which fits the CZ’s narrow (11mm) receiver groove. This will build in 20 MOA to my scope. Price: $90.
https://www.egwguns.com/hd-cz-452-453-511-512-3-8-picatinny-rail-20-moa
2) Buy a set of Burris XTR Signature Rings (can adjust up to 40 MOA) for $85 or a set of Zee Rings (can adjust up to 20 MOA) for $45. Both adjust MOA via plastic inserts. Add another $10 for a conversion rail that converts the 11mm groove to handle Weaver rings or Picatinny.
https://www.amazon.com/Burris-420223-Rings-Height-Matte/dp/B00U1AVEY0/ref=sr_1_1?gclid=Cj0KCQjw4uaUBhC8ARIsANUuDjW9C43zK_bhGNVSDVF7Y0tOZCA-9gRO_n7Ow4bdzSu-4MDoGLuN2qcaAoS5EALw_wcB&hvadid=581402648780&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9006759&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=142628337169196678&hvtargid=kwd-321540335926&hydadcr=9660_9895651&keywords=xtr+signature+rings&qid=1654301770&s=sporting-goods&sr=1-1&th=1
https://www.amazon.com/Burris-Optics-Signature-Pos-Align-Inserts/dp/B0002IL19Y/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=2RG7AUKBB30ZO&keywords=burris+zee+rings&qid=1654301960&s=sporting-goods&sprefix=burris+zee+ri,sporting,69&sr=1-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFFNDIxMVdTQldDMUImZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTAxMDc5NDMyNVY0UzE3MFZLS1FSJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAxODI3MjMxQ0oyRUVYWUc0WU1IJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==
3) I have a Burris 4.5-14 Fullfield E1 scope with holdover marks, but there is no guarantee that the marks will align with any "whole-number" distances, so I think I have ruled out this option.
The pro of the EGW rail is that it’s simple, and I can use any rings I want with it. The possible con is whether 20 MOA will be sufficient for my purposes and still enable me to shoot from 50 feet to 200 yards.
The pro of the XTR rings is that they provide tons of MOA, more than I will need.
What are your thoughts and opinions of these options to solve my problem (assuming they would do so), preferably based on your actual experience? Are there other options I am missing?
I'm new at this stuff, so try to keep your answers at the 6th grade level.
Thanks
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