Never let down your guard regarding SAFETY

[Andrew Wyatt]

Sometimes it is. As mentioned, guns like Glocks need to be dry fired to disassemble.

Some people also prefer to store some guns de-cocked, and the gun doesn't have a de-cocker.

You also might pull the trigger as part of a function check.

But still...really ought to double check that it's unloaded before pulling the trigger, even in a safe direction.

I absolutely agree with everything you're saying, but all of those circumstances happen after the gun is cleared.

I think idpa and ipsc have created a situation where a very limited and specific set of behaviors that are only suitable for the square range in a match are used in circumstances where they can cause injury or death.
the pirpose of snapping a gun downrange in a match is to ensure that the gun is absolutely empty. if the gun is still loaded, the only harm done is to the berm.

In a home or business, there is no berm, and that round lands somewhere.

if you want to store a single action gun with the hammer down, there are ways to do it that make an ND less likely.

 

[Warp]

I dislike that IDPA thing as well. I was in a carbine/pistol match recently that basically used IDPA rules (or so I understand, I've never done IDPA) and that resulted in everybody walking around with rifles that had no safety on, and a closed bolt. I'm not fond of being swept by guns with the bolt closed and the safety off, you know?

 

[Andrew Wyatt]

theres a whole other discussion to be had about hot ranges vs cold ranges.

i will say that people are probably too polite when it comes to correcting the muzzle discipline of others. sweeping people is a behavior that if left too long without correction leads to serious problems.

 

[Warp]

theres a whole other discussion to be had about hot ranges vs cold ranges.

i will say that people are probably too polite when it comes to correcting the muzzle discipline of others. sweeping people is a behavior that if left too long without correction leads to serious problems.

True. So many ways to handle a range.

Though to be fair to the other guys most of the sweeps were rifles being set on a table, or picked back up, muzzle discipline was good overall, and trigger finger discipline was exceptional. I just don't like it...and I don't like looking down at my rifle to see the safety off...and I can't put it on.