Mine's a Mosin Nagant 91/30. weighs in at about 8.8 lbs without the optics/steel PE mount and a full mag of five 7.62x54R steel core rounds. Those probably up it to 10+. The thing's a head smasher. But hey! Should for some reason that little Soviet beauty ever fail to function properly, you can always beat someone to death with it. As it is, my wife (who is barely taller than my rifle) can only just get the thing horizontal.