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Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Ironhand54, Nov 4, 2019.

  1. Ironhand54

    Ironhand54 Member

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    I have never been a Glock fan. Mostly because of the grip angle. (NO FLAMES PLEASE) but also because of the take down system.

    Recently I changed jobs. I drive 90 minutes from my rural town to a large city. Often late at night. Given the situation I decided to get a truck gun that I could carry concealed if needed.

    At the last gun show I hosted I went looking for a 357 snub nose. No luck. Then one of the dealers offered me an interesting alternative. A Glock 33.

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    The combo of size and power interested me so I brought it.

    I was warned that the 357 Sig recoil would make it uncontrollable but after 50 rounds today I don't see why. It was not excessive.

    Accuracy was good with 10 rounds rapid fire at 7 yards fitting in a group I could cover with my palm.

    The grip angle will take some training but I can deal with that.

    Since this is a carry gun I don't intend to add much to it but there are a couple of things I might get. Looking for an opinion from the Glockophiles out there on 2 accessories.

    First a Glock clip

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    This would eliminate keeping a holster in the vehicle for the occasional concealed carry.

    The second is a grip enhancer

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    This might help with recoil and grip issues.

    Anyone have experience with these?

    Thanks
    Ironhand
     
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    Don’t have experience with either, but I also see no need for either too. No way would I carry my Glock without a proper holster covering the trigger. Don’t see the grip enhancer doing all that much either unless you’re prone to slide bite from your Glock.
    Nice choice of ccw though. You will enjoy it. I went away from Glocks for about 15 years and am recently warming back up to them too. A G29 10mm is now my favorite ccw.
     
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    The glock will serve you well. I have traveled the carry gun modification route as a younger man, all i got from it was a dislike for doo dads that do this or that. I would highly recomend using a holster that covers the trigger, even if you plan to carry without a chambered round - just not a good habit to develop. I learn to shoot the gun properly and dont run into odd issues that could stem from modification, on a range gun its fine to put odds and ends on them but for a gun i trust my life with i prefer box stock with the exception of sights. But if it makes you more comfortable then who am i to judge. 357 sig is a good cartridge and should suit your needs. Enjoy.
     
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  4. AK103K

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    I think youre going to find its a easy shooter. I have a couple of 26's and shoot them as well as my 17's.

    I personally would suggest skipping the extended floorplates for the mags, and learn to wrap your pinkie underneath when you shoot. Its a little strange at first, but once you get used to it, its very comfortable, and a good solid grip, that doesn't pinch like some of the extensions do.

    I had a 31 and I think youll find, other than the "bark", 357SIG isnt really any different than 9mm +P/+P+ as far as recoil and shooting goes.

    Id look into getting a couple of 31 mags for your reload.

    While I prefer a good holster (that will disappear be very comfortable) in an AIWB holster, if your the least bit reasonable in your gun handling, Glocks are no worse than anything else when carried without a holster.

    I got so tired of hearing it was going to go of by itself, I carried a second, unloaded 17 just stuffed in my waistband and pockets, and even repeatedly picked it up off the table "by" the trigger itself, every minute I was home for about a year and a half, and never once found the trigger tripped, unless I intentionally pulled it. If youre uncomfortable, Id suggest giving that a try.

    As with anything though, a proper holster, belt, and accessories are really needed.
     
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    The gun should be in a holster anyway, regardless if it's on you or in your vehicle. Get a holster that covers the trigger that you can put on and take off with the gun still in it.
    This one is 100% personal preference. Only way to tell if it will work for you is to try it. Personally, I'm not a fan, but that doesn't mean you won't be.
     
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    I think I saw the commercial for that clip back in the day. Something along the lines of “This clip brought to you by Glock Leg”. Not sure though, memory’s a bit fuzzy...
     
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    As above, I would suggest a proper holster & belt more than anything.
     
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    If I wanted something I could use to put the gun on & off quickly I would either use a paddle holster or inside waistband holster with a clip. Either is quick & easy whether putting the gun on your belt or taking it off. I would not use something like that clip to carry a striker fired pistol that does not have an external safety. Too easy for something to get into the trigger guard.
     
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    A decent iwb kydex holster is not expensive and imo much safer than any iwb clip type. Convenient for off and on if needed. No experience with the grip accessory.
     
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    A 27 is my choice for EDC ..

    The 357sig is a great round ...
    Underwood Ammo rolls 357 Sig the way it was meant to be .
     
  11. Ironhand54

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    Thanks for the responses. A bit of clarification. I am a Registered Nurse. I wear scrubs to work,so no belt to hang a holster on. Thus the clip idea.
    Clips like this have been available for revolvers for about 100 years. How is the Glock less safe. Are there examples of this?

    Thanks
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    It's only as unsafe as your handling, i've carried a glock since 2012 and wouldn't be comfortable without a holster on any gun - personal preference i guess. I can suggest how you could carry it with the clip that may suit you and i would feel fine with for my own use - MIC holster. Just covers the trigger gaurd and pulls away when drawn. I have one for my glock 42, thats how i pocket carry sometimes, cord looped through a front belt loop - you could tie it to anything really.
    Best of luck.
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    If you wear scrubs, it's gonna be tough.
     
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    For your safety, please use a real holster. I prefer a kydex holster for Glocks. Stay a way from cheap soft holsters...or even leather holsters. As leather ages...it softens and it can fold in the trigger guard area.

    With a revolver's heavy double action trigger, just about any holster will do. But with Glock's lighter trigger...I would only use kydex holsters.

    Get a holster that covers the full length of the gun. There's always the rare possibility of pushing the gun up..that is pushing the barrel up and out of the holster. I've made this mistake once...as I bent over forward, while carrying AIWB.

    Go to "We the people" holsters. Spend the money for the right holster once. Otherwise, you'll waste money on a dozen cheap and dangerous holsters.
     
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  15. AK103K

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    The perfect holster for scrubs, is a Smart Carry. No belt necessary, and there won't be a load on your scrubs. Comfortale for long day use, and perfect for NPE's. Quick, easy draw too.

    Works great with anything too, not just scrubs.

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    Scrubs without a belt aren't going to secure the gun properly either way. A fanny pack might work. They do make scrub pants with belt loops, FYI.
    It's less safe because the trigger is far easier to pull on a Glock than on a double action revolver, plus, you can keep your thumb on the hammer of a revolver while holstering, assuring that you'll feel the hammer start to move if there's something caught in the trigger guard.
     
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    I agree 110%... I see this being a good idea and something the OP tries for no more than a few weeks to a month before it gets old. In I go to the gym, for a run, etc and have gym short or pants without belt loops on, I'll typically will carry a light weight 14oz revolver or 380...
     
  19. Jack B.

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    I just can't warm up to guns with square trigger guards. I guess its just me. Seems pretty popular these days.
     
  20. AK103K

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    For those who are so sure a Glock or similar handgun is going to fire, simply because its not in a holster, I suggest you do a dry run for a while without one, and see if thats really the case. I think youre going to find, its basically a non-issue.

    I did so, and did things I normally never would, and never had the trigger drop. I had to deliberatly pull the trigger to get it to happen. Im not saying things dont happen, but you do have to work at it to get it to happen.

    Now, if your a person thats not reasonably proficient in your gun handling, then its likely you could have problems. Then again, you probably shouldn't be handling/carrying ANY gun anyway.

    I carried a 1911 daily for a couple of decades, and longer than anything else Ive carried. Many times at the end of the day, I would find the safety off on the gun, in its holster, so what you have, is basically the same as a Glock.

    Ive also had a couple of 1911's over the years, that came with nonfunctioning grip safeties, right out of the box. If youre going to count on mechanical things, you need to constantly check on and prove them.

    It really doesnt matter what the gun is, what added safeties it has, if you arent safe and reasonable with your handling of the gun, you will probably have an issue at some point.


    I have a couple of the Vanguard type trigger guards and while they do work, they have their issues. The main one is, they tend to be fragile, and soon crack with use. Id suggest buying a couple if you intend to practice with them, as you should.

    The draw on them is hitchy and a bit awkward, especially at the point of release. You also need an anchor point on your pants for them to work properly. You dont "have" to have that, but if you dont, then getting the gun into action will pretty much be a two-handed job.

    It can be done one-handed, if the guard has a hook of sorts up front, but removing it that way, will likely break the guard in short order in practice. And like anything else, and even more so here, you need to regularly practice.

    While they do help somewhat retaining the gun, the gun tends to always move around as you move too, and is really about the same as no holster at all, except you have a string attached to the gun.

    Personally, I believe ANY gun should be carried in a good quality holster with some retention. Doesnt matter what kind of gun it is either.

    While safety can be an added bonus to it, its not necessarily the main reason for doing so.
     
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    Thanks for the links, especially the Keepers Concealment website.

    If I was wearing something that didn't allow for the usual holster and belt set-up I think some sort of belly band holster would be the way to go. I have one from DeSantis and while ii's well made it's not all that comfortable to wear for long stretches of time.
     
  22. Ironhand54

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    Thanks for all the help. I went with Bannockburn's idea and got a belly band.
    It's easy to use. I can put it on over my scrub shirt, holster the gun, and pull the shirt up and over the whole thing. No belt required. I can even do that while sitting in my truck.

    Thanks all
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    Ankle holster is another great option, just make sure your scrubs are long enough to keep it hidden when knees are bent
     
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    There seems to be nothing wrong with the 9mm Glock which a friend let me shoot, and I shoot them better than my classic Sigs. For some of us, the lesser appeal of Glocks is sometimes subjective.
    Just tried a .380 Glock (6-rounds?) for the first time: decent trigger, pleasant to shoot. Nifty little gun.

    You see a gun which is very reliable, ok trigger, easy to conceal, effective, you can hit a target. Why not?
    Maybe some of us prefer more shine and a slide with more of a unique shape, or details. My brand-new Walther P99 AS has a bit of swept angle in the grip, but the ergos are quite good.

    Jack B.: the shape of the square trigger guards of my Sig P225 ('87) and P6 ('01) never really caught my attention. I'm too "thick", as English people say.
     
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  25. JTQ

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    Just as a public service so you're aware of potential issues with a soft holster with striker fired guns without a manual safety.

    https://www.itstactical.com/warcom/...her-holsters-can-cause-accidental-discharges/

    Let me add: You may want to consider holstering the gun first and then putting the belly band on with the pre-holstered gun.
     
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