F-111 John
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You're probably right. I know I purchased a Glock disassembly tool when I already had a perfectly functional 3/32" punch.
New Glock Model 42
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Based on the size of the Zippo lighter in the picture, next to the pistol , the Glock 42 seems to be about 5.1" long or about the size of a Ruger LCP. Probably a 380 ACP. The zippo is 1.5" wide. Using a mm ruler and converting to inches, that's what I come up with. I am not 100% certain as the superimposed picture of the Zippo could be further away from the surface of the gun. But if it is right up against the gun , I believe it is 5.1" long.
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I'm sorry but if one of these isn't a single stack nine I would be speechless and very disappointed. Are they really that unaware of what a huge market that category has been the past few years.
It'll be a small single stack 9mm. It seems that they watch what the others do (now) and see how the market goes. Like with the back straps. They started doing it after M&P, now they see how the Shield and XDs were snatched up right as they hit the shelves. Its also something that people been wanting for years.
Personally I have Bern asking for the single stack 9 for a while and was expecting it at last SHOT but they trilled out the 30s instead..... at this'd point I could care less sad the moment had passed on this one.... Handled a friend XDS 45 last week and was like wow... Same logic that said why carry 380 when I can carry a 9 is now telling me why carry a 9 when I can carry a 45...... Danger logic used after the mag caps of the 90's
Not to slide off topic *but* I have handled and shot both the XD-S 9mm and .45 and the XD-S goes on sale next week at the LGS for *dirt* cheap...I will have my XD-S .45 I have no doubt as I have been lusting for one all Summer.
That said I am curious about the "Why buy a 9mm when I can have .45 in the same size pistol" mindset....having shot them both side by side, the .45 XD-S can be brutal in recoil with that rough textured grip. The 9mm? Not so much.
For many they'll be better off with a 9mm so the recoil doesn't beat them senseless. It's not really a "get the biggest caliber you can find" situation with these tiny lightweight subcompacts...they tend to buck/snap/and flash in a serious manner for some.
Just sayin'. I don't need another Glock model 9mm...I have the G26 and it's as tiny a 9mm as I need. Single stack 9mm G42? I don't think that will sell as well for Glock as a .380 version at this point in the market time due to the number of folks getting into CCW in a more casual way. At my local GS .380's are literally flying off the shelves as are Glocks in general...a Glock 42 in .380, if it shoots anything like my G26, in this neck of the woods will be a *very* *very* hot seller the minute it hits the display cases.
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That said I am curious about the "Why buy a 9mm when I can have .45 in the same size pistol" mindset....having shot them both side by side, the .45 XD-S can be brutal in recoil with that rough textured grip. The 9mm? Not so much.
For many they'll be better off with a 9mm so the recoil doesn't beat them senseless. It's not really a "get the biggest caliber you can find" situation with these tiny lightweight subcompacts...they tend to buck/snap/and flash in a serious manner for some.
Just sayin'. I don't need another Glock model 9mm...I have the G26 and it's as tiny a 9mm as I need. Single stack 9mm G42? I don't think that will sell as well for Glock as a .380 version at this point in the market time due to the number of folks getting into CCW in a more casual way. At my local GS .380's are literally flying off the shelves as are Glocks in general...a Glock 42 in .380, if it shoots anything like my G26, in this neck of the woods will be a *very* *very* hot seller the minute it hits the display cases.
VooDoo
They already have a 380 (Glock 25 & 28 ) which is the 19 & 26, but it doesn't meet the import points. Sure the 380 will sell, but the 9mm will sell better. I for one don't care for the 380.
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Now that Glock is getting their US manufacturing ramped up, it wouldn't surprise me at all to see the G25 made available to the US market.
Actually, I queued off Quack's misnaming the subcompact the G25.
I think a lot of people would buy a G28. Even though it is the same size as a G26, I think a lot of recoil sensitive people would snap it up. A G28 would probably be an ideal carry gun for a lot of women.
I think a lot of people would buy a G28. Even though it is the same size as a G26, I think a lot of recoil sensitive people would snap it up. A G28 would probably be an ideal carry gun for a lot of women.
"Sure the 380 will sell, but the 9mm will sell better". That remains to be seen. Ruger sells far more 380 LCP's than they do 9mm LC9, Keltec sells more 380 P3at than 9mm pf9. When it comes to "pocket" guns the 380 outsells the 9mm by a wide margin. The 9mm is too much gun for most people when it comes to "POCKETS". If I want a 9mm , it will have to fit in a holster. And that is true for most people. Glock already has an excellent 9mm subcompact gun- the 26. There is no "PocketGlock" in the market now. The 380 makes more sense because it will fill that niche. And yes, it will sell. My 2 cents
Illinois CCW classes are very hot and heavy at my LGS/indoor range...they are literally swamped with new students and the show case yesterday was literally *packed* with new pistols to sell the new students and potential CCW aficionados in this part of Illinois.
Literally 1/2 of the new offerings are .380 pistols due to the demand for them - lots of folks (we have to shoot 30 rounds and pass proficiency in Illinois) simply can't handle 9mm recoil in a concealable compact or subcompact size gun. The result is that record numbers of .380's are being rented. In range ammo, the sales of .380 to feed them for CCW students practicing is off the charts.
As is the sale of Glocks in general and Springer XD-S, S&W M&P, Berettas (there are now 4 Storms in the case and last week there were none!!) Rugers, etc. We'll see but my guess is that a .380 Glock, with it's easy to maintain finish and ability to feed anything thrown at it and the low bore axis would literally fly off the shelves here next year. I'm sure a Glock single stack 9mm would do very well but most of these folks have access to various Glocks as rental in 9mm and the .380 rentals of other pistols is stunning according to the guys at the range....folks come in and start their rental session with a G19 or G26 and end up shooting a .380 by the end of the hour because the recoil puts them off. Most new CCW converts here (maybe not everywhere) are not gun aficionados and not experienced...they want a gun for protection and will likely only shoot a couple times a year.
Newbies see that Glocks are good enough for the cops and have heard the name for many years so they accept it....give it to them in .380 and they'll be happy to part with $500 - $600 and go to town with it.
VooDoo
Literally 1/2 of the new offerings are .380 pistols due to the demand for them - lots of folks (we have to shoot 30 rounds and pass proficiency in Illinois) simply can't handle 9mm recoil in a concealable compact or subcompact size gun. The result is that record numbers of .380's are being rented. In range ammo, the sales of .380 to feed them for CCW students practicing is off the charts.
As is the sale of Glocks in general and Springer XD-S, S&W M&P, Berettas (there are now 4 Storms in the case and last week there were none!!) Rugers, etc. We'll see but my guess is that a .380 Glock, with it's easy to maintain finish and ability to feed anything thrown at it and the low bore axis would literally fly off the shelves here next year. I'm sure a Glock single stack 9mm would do very well but most of these folks have access to various Glocks as rental in 9mm and the .380 rentals of other pistols is stunning according to the guys at the range....folks come in and start their rental session with a G19 or G26 and end up shooting a .380 by the end of the hour because the recoil puts them off. Most new CCW converts here (maybe not everywhere) are not gun aficionados and not experienced...they want a gun for protection and will likely only shoot a couple times a year.
Newbies see that Glocks are good enough for the cops and have heard the name for many years so they accept it....give it to them in .380 and they'll be happy to part with $500 - $600 and go to town with it.
VooDoo
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The same could be said about Springfield Armory with the XDm Compacts, S&W with the M&P Compacts, and Ruger with the SR Compacts. However that does not prevent the single stack XDs, Shield, or LC9 from selling like hot cakes.
Captains 1911, these companies have pocket 380's, and for pocket carry, they outsell the 9mm. Most people do not carry nines in the pocket. Glock does not have a pocket gun. That is why the little 5.1" new Glock 42 is a 380, not a 9mm.
toivo
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Back in the dark ages when I used to smoke, I used Zippos. In my experience, there are only three reasons a Zippo won't work: it has no fuel, it has no flint, or it has no wick. It's like expecting your Glock to work with no firing pin or striker spring or ammo.
Most of the people posting online about Zippo problems grew up with Bics and don't know how to use the older technology.
Put me down on the list of those who think the "pocket nine" is a flawed concept. If they're small/light enough to pocket-carry, they're just so nasty to shoot (Kel-Tec PF-9, Kahrs). If they're big/heavy enough to be shootable, they're too big to pocket-carry (Beretta Nano, Glock 26). I'd love to see a pocketable single-stack .380 Glock.
Most of the people posting online about Zippo problems grew up with Bics and don't know how to use the older technology.
Put me down on the list of those who think the "pocket nine" is a flawed concept. If they're small/light enough to pocket-carry, they're just so nasty to shoot (Kel-Tec PF-9, Kahrs). If they're big/heavy enough to be shootable, they're too big to pocket-carry (Beretta Nano, Glock 26). I'd love to see a pocketable single-stack .380 Glock.
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I love my Zippo.
I hate that the fuel holder is a cotton-ball like thingy. Damn thing is only good for a few days before it's dry.
When properly gassed up, my Zippo always-always-always lights.
I hate that the fuel holder is a cotton-ball like thingy. Damn thing is only good for a few days before it's dry.
When properly gassed up, my Zippo always-always-always lights.
If it really is a single stack glock 380 auto, I will buy one. I wanted one fo the model 28's (if I remember the number right) because the concept of a glock 380 made sense.
I like 380's. They are fun to shoot. Hopefully it will be locked breach instead of blowback.
I like 380's. They are fun to shoot. Hopefully it will be locked breach instead of blowback.
It's pretty much a given that the 42, if released as a .380, would be a locked breech design as I believe all of the present Glocks and the basic action is of a locked breech design. I'm sure others who are more knowledgeable about Glocks will correct me if I'm wrong.
But I'm pretty certain the new G42 would be a locked breech. That said I'm not a .380 aficionado but I am a Glock lover because of my G26. I wouldn't buy one in .380 but my Wife might depending on where she finally settles for her main CCW piece.
VooDoo
But I'm pretty certain the new G42 would be a locked breech. That said I'm not a .380 aficionado but I am a Glock lover because of my G26. I wouldn't buy one in .380 but my Wife might depending on where she finally settles for her main CCW piece.
VooDoo
I stand corrected. So, there is the possibility that a new G42 will be blow back instead of locked breech.
Yuck.
VooDoo
Yuck.
VooDoo
I don't think it will be, but the G25 and G28 are.
Some people have said that Glock was going to start making the G28 in Georgia and it would be the G42. That doesn't make sense - Glock wouldn't manufacture an existing model and give it a whole new model number just because it was being manufactured at a different location.
So I think there would be differences.
Single stack might be the difference, locked breach might be the difference.
Or it could be a single-stack 9mm
Some people have said that Glock was going to start making the G28 in Georgia and it would be the G42. That doesn't make sense - Glock wouldn't manufacture an existing model and give it a whole new model number just because it was being manufactured at a different location.
So I think there would be differences.
Single stack might be the difference, locked breach might be the difference.
Or it could be a single-stack 9mm
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