New Improved Remington .22 'bulk' ammo

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my experience has mirrored crracer, I was going to buy some of the "new and improved" remington at Wal-mart today to try it, but they were out so federal 550 and automatch got my money.
 
If you had 25% failures then it is your gun not

If you had 25% failures then it is your gun not the ammo. I have a Ruger 22srp and have shot about a thousand rds. of Goldens with about a 1% failure. My Bersa has less failures with Goldens than it does with CCi minimags.
 
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Well, they don't function on average as well as the Federal bulk pack ammo. But I find the Remingtons fairly accurate overall, so I still shoot them and put up with all the duds.
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I keep reading about all the "duds" in Remington Golden Bullets. But I have shot them for many years and I just don't get very many duds. In fact I would rate them very reliable in that respect. I have bought them because most of the time they were the cheapest I could find. As for as accuracy, I have never compared them to any other brand but I always hit what I shoot at with them. I use them in my Marlin 39A, my Ruger 10/22, my Ruger MK II, my Ruger Single Six, and my S & W Model 317. I use them for plinking and hunting.
 
i have not had much trouble with semi current rimfire ammo. no matter who made it. the ones i have had problems with can be age related. all of it was over 20 years old. and "stored" by shoving them under a bed. i have an occasional misfire from ammo once in a while. but it is rare that it can not be fed back into a gun, rotating it 100 degrees so the fireing pin hits in a different spot. 99% of the time after doing that they fire just fine. which would indicate a priming problem. either not enough mixture to fill all the way around, or it settles out of a spot before it sets up.
 
I contacted Remington today. They said they have pulling off the shelves the 550 bulk pak. They now sell the "New and Improved" ammo with the new box. They said they completely revamped the manufacturing process, and using a new mix of powder and primers. I have shot the new and they work great. Especially in my Bersa, which normally requires premium ammo only. The new ammo from Remington cycles the Bersa better than the mini mags and seems more accurate as well. And obviously the price is so much less.

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Remington bulk .22 seems to be a niche ammo. Its works well in a few guns, but most dont like it. It works best in my GSG-5, but Federal works better and is consistent from one lot to the next with only a few, if any, that need a second hit. Four out of five of my other .22s don't like it. I guess I should try the GBs in my daughter's cricket.

I bought a buncha of the GBs that were on sale when I built a rimfire 1911, and didn't have any issues with them, and during the course of shooting that lot I built an AR22 as well. I didn't understand the "GBs are crap" comments until I got more, from a different lot... I've only bought federal since, and haven't had issues.

They can say improved all they want. IMO it was chicken crap, sold as chicken salad. It might be a better chicken salad now, but that doesn't change the fact that its still made out of chicken crap... JMO.
 
I agree with davevabch. I purchased and fired about a hundred rounds without any failure. It's the first bulk I've ever ran through my Beretta Bobcat that didn't choke somewhere. CCI mini mag and stingers were the only ammo that I trusted 100%. Refer to You tube review by kickedintheballs on the Beretta Bocat 21A reliability report. These guns are very finicky about what they digest. Mine was a pig with "NEW AND IMPROVED". This is a break through in bulk ammo ( cautiously optimistic). From my experience today, I am still amazed at the consistency of the feeding and firing of this ammo. Based on just today only, I would say it is as good as CCI or maybe better.
 
I contacted Remington today. They said they have pulling off the shelves the 550 bulk pak. They now sell the "New and Improved" ammo with the new box. They said they completely revamped the manufacturing process, and using a new mix of powder and primers.
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Three cheers for Remington. It is about time! Remington 22 ammo used to be my favorite 22LR ammo until the last 10 years. But I still have some left over from the 1980's and you get an occasional FTF (less than 1%). The 2000+ ammo has more failures, but it shoots reasonably accurately for high speed and I shoot it commonly. What gun you are shooting it with seems to make a difference too. It is not always the ammo.
 
This is interesting -- I have quit buying Remington ammo. All Remington ammo. I figure it their quality control is so poor in .22s, I certainly don't want to risk finding out their centerfire ammo is just as bad on a hunt that cost me $1,000.

But I will try the 225 bulk packs and see how they do.
 
I swore off Remington rimfire ammo long ago. I don't know about the new stuff they're putting out but their bulk 550 packs are total garbage. Won't cycle reliably in anything I've owned semi auto wise.
 
Remington has obviously made a bad name for the company so far as .22 bulk ammo is concerned. I've had my own experiences with Golden FT feed, ruptured cases, etc. I say it's about time they made some changes and I'm glad to see it and will try some. However most of my .22s function just fine with Federal bulk at less expense. So, until Remington becomes price competitive I wiil use it only in those guns that won't function reliably with the other brands.
 
The older Rem. ammo causes so many gas blowbacks in the Savage .22 (1940s vintage), that I stopped using both, about two years ago.

One of every two rounds blows gas into the shooting glasses, and "ThunderSlug" is even worse.
On the other hand, Federal and Winchester never do this. A few F. and W. have a ftf on the first pin strike, but do well on the second.
 
mxl said:
Remington has obviously made a bad name for the company so far as .22 bulk ammo is concerned. I've had my own experiences with Golden FT feed, ruptured cases, etc. I say it's about time they made some changes and I'm glad to see it and will try some. However most of my .22s function just fine with Federal bulk at less expense. So, until Remington becomes price competitive I wiil use it only in those guns that won't function reliably with the other brands.
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Yeah I had tiny pieces of brass lodged in my arm for days from a ruptured Remington case. Interesting to know I'm not the only one who had this problem.
 
I suppose the only thing it could be is "improved".

Hard to imagine that it could ever get worse.

The GBs gave me more ammo related failures than anything I ever used. And this was in Remington 22s. Besides, it was the filthiest stuff ever. Having said that, my experience with Remington's 22wmr ammo has been good. I hope they've finally gotten their act together with the 22lr ammo, because it was awful for years.
 
I've never had one not work on the first fall of the hammer, ever. What's wrong with your gun?
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I have high dud rates in the following guns:

Ruger MKII
Colt Officer's Model Target
Colt Woodsman
Colt Service Ace Conversion Kit
Ciener Conversion Kit
Stevens #26 Crackshot
Stevens Favorite
Marlin 15Y
Springfield M1911 MK II
Remington M541X
Kimber M82

They can't all be wrong!!

Nor can the dozens and dozens of people who have posted on this echo with similar experiences.
 
Vern Humphrey said:
Nor can the dozens and dozens of people who have posted on this echo with similar experiences.
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That experience is with the old stuff ... this thread is about the new stuff. What experience do you have with the "new and improved" product?
 
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