Eleven Mike
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Yeah, where is the outrage that police are putting guns back on the streets? What about the children! [Sarcasm provided free of charge]
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New Orleans Police to Return Seized Guns
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Manedwolf
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Who knows people didn't? Who knows how many disarmed citizens then fell prey to looters and ended up with their bodies floating away in the waters in the night?
We'll never know.
beerslurpy
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No, citizens will become less trusting, and the guns will be handed over pointy end first next time.
XavierBreath
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In the immediate wake of hurricane Katrina, with looters threatening honest law abiding citizens, while police officers were bugging out for God knows where, Warren Riley present Superintendent of the NOPD was quoted as saying "No one will be able to be armed. We are going to take all the weapons." Do not forget that.
Now, with contempt of court charges hounding him, NOPD Chief Warren Riley says "If we took a gun from you and you were walking down the street, you went to jail. We took guns that were in homes. We took guns that were stolen that were stashed in alleyways. If we went into an abandoned house and a gun was there, absolutely we took the weapons. Obviously there were looters out there. We didn't want some burglar or looter to have an opportunity to arm themselves."
That's what folks in Louisiana call serious crawdading.
At the end of Wednesday's stolen gun return, a total of 17 gunowners have regained their property.
Remember.......... "No one will be able to be armed. We are going to take all the weapons." Chief Warren Riley NOPD
And never, never forget New Orleans.
Now, with contempt of court charges hounding him, NOPD Chief Warren Riley says "If we took a gun from you and you were walking down the street, you went to jail. We took guns that were in homes. We took guns that were stolen that were stashed in alleyways. If we went into an abandoned house and a gun was there, absolutely we took the weapons. Obviously there were looters out there. We didn't want some burglar or looter to have an opportunity to arm themselves."
That's what folks in Louisiana call serious crawdading.
At the end of Wednesday's stolen gun return, a total of 17 gunowners have regained their property.
Remember.......... "No one will be able to be armed. We are going to take all the weapons." Chief Warren Riley NOPD
And never, never forget New Orleans.
Erebus
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None of that explains why they rolled an otherwise defenseless old lady for her pistol while she was secure in her home in full control of her firearm.
This is all very frightening... as well as eye opening.
I guess this means that I must protect myself from not only the "criminals" in the event of a disaster, but also from the "government" as well.
It's sad that I have to think like that, but to not do so would be foolish and naive.
I guess this means that I must protect myself from not only the "criminals" in the event of a disaster, but also from the "government" as well.
It's sad that I have to think like that, but to not do so would be foolish and naive.
xd9fan
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I hear ya Nophilly, world/human history does not give me great comfort either. It can/did/and will again happen here too.
mountainclmbr
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If I confront Govt and take their guns and property...what will happen to me? If they do this to citizens what should happen? If there is justice it should be the exact same! These thugs need to be placed in the worst prisons for a very long time. This is really disgraceful in a free country!
engineer151515
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Government (as personified by LEO's) have definitely lost a "trust" factor in future disaster scenarios.
Everything from disarming Katrina survivors in their homes to disarming refugees that show up in temporary FEMA shelters.
You won't see the guns, but they will be there.
BTW - I bet concealment carry bags for rifles would sell well over the next few years. A gun case with quick access that doesn't "look" like a gun case.
Everything from disarming Katrina survivors in their homes to disarming refugees that show up in temporary FEMA shelters.
You won't see the guns, but they will be there.
BTW - I bet concealment carry bags for rifles would sell well over the next few years. A gun case with quick access that doesn't "look" like a gun case.
17 Returned? They Should Impose a $100.00/day Penalty Per Firearm Not Returned
I have seen too many "settlements" with no teeth! The agreement should have stipulated that the N.O. "police" would be fined $100.00/day, per firearm not returned beyond the 5th day of returns.
It is obvious that these requirements are nearly unattainable in a flood-ravaged area, and THAT is the reason that the standards were set as they were.
Furthermore, they should have been required to pay shipping to ANY location to which the owner had to relocate without the firearm that was "stolen" from him. "Seize" is just the politically correct word for Constitutional rape, and governmental theft.
Anyone see FOX News' latest poll? Congressional approval in AmeriKa--appx. 25%! I sense the winds of change on the horizon, with the next election, and I think it shall effect both parties.
Wonder where N.O. "police" approval stands? Ironic, that the government lets the illegals cross the border and stay, and the same government takes the guns from the legal citizens?! Whose country is this?!?! Let's all send the politicians to their respective states' unemployment offices.
Doc2005
I have seen too many "settlements" with no teeth! The agreement should have stipulated that the N.O. "police" would be fined $100.00/day, per firearm not returned beyond the 5th day of returns.
It is obvious that these requirements are nearly unattainable in a flood-ravaged area, and THAT is the reason that the standards were set as they were.
Furthermore, they should have been required to pay shipping to ANY location to which the owner had to relocate without the firearm that was "stolen" from him. "Seize" is just the politically correct word for Constitutional rape, and governmental theft.
Anyone see FOX News' latest poll? Congressional approval in AmeriKa--appx. 25%! I sense the winds of change on the horizon, with the next election, and I think it shall effect both parties.
Wonder where N.O. "police" approval stands? Ironic, that the government lets the illegals cross the border and stay, and the same government takes the guns from the legal citizens?! Whose country is this?!?! Let's all send the politicians to their respective states' unemployment offices.
Doc2005
Ivy Mike
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Just out of curiosity, what would you have done if the cops had knocked on your door and tried to take your gun?
Is that the time to shoot?
Is that the time to shoot?
Carl N. Brown
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deserves repeating
When post-Katrina N.O.La. first became an issue, I downloaded the
ABCS CNN and FOX video bytes, especially the two Channel 2 San Fran
station whose reporter followed the CHiPs into N.O.La and the video
of Patricia Kronie getting her shoulder dislocated by three CHiPs taking
her gun and dragging out of her high and dry home on Magazine Street,
the lawyer at his nome, and the other folks in non-flooded parts of
the city being handcuffed as the police took their guns. And video of
empty homes being broken into by Swat-ninjaed-up troopers leading
with their M4s pointed ahead in caes they encountered folks needing
to be "rescued." Warner Riley is trying to re-write history
ala orwellian 1984 Ministry of Truth memory hole tactics.
When post-Katrina N.O.La. first became an issue, I downloaded the
ABCS CNN and FOX video bytes, especially the two Channel 2 San Fran
station whose reporter followed the CHiPs into N.O.La and the video
of Patricia Kronie getting her shoulder dislocated by three CHiPs taking
her gun and dragging out of her high and dry home on Magazine Street,
the lawyer at his nome, and the other folks in non-flooded parts of
the city being handcuffed as the police took their guns. And video of
empty homes being broken into by Swat-ninjaed-up troopers leading
with their M4s pointed ahead in caes they encountered folks needing
to be "rescued." Warner Riley is trying to re-write history
ala orwellian 1984 Ministry of Truth memory hole tactics.
Eleven Mike
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In some situations, I'd say give up the gun, and let some RKBA lawyers shred them in court. In the middle of NO post-Katrina, though, gun cop-fiscators would have to be treated as looters. One could too easily be murdered, robbed or raped before a complaint could even be filed.
alan
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New Orleans authorities returning legally owned, personal property they never seized in the first place. I wonder as to how that trick works.
MuzzleBlast
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Remember, this is a story from the AP, advocacy journalist stalwarts of the liberal mainstream media, and in the first sentence they are giving props to the NRA. To all the NRA bashers in this forum: In yer face.
engineer151515
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New Orleans must not mind too much about the gun confiscations. They just put the incumbent Mayor Nagin into the runoff for re-election.
Unbelievable.
You truly get what you vote for.
from MSN
Nagin topped all candidates with 38 percent or 41,489 votes but fell short of the majority he would have needed to win a second term and avoid the May 20 runoff.
“There have been too many people who said we were dead, too many people who said we were way too divisive. There were too many people who said this city should go in a different direction. But the people have said they like the direction,” Nagin said.
Unbelievable.
You truly get what you vote for.
from MSN
Nagin topped all candidates with 38 percent or 41,489 votes but fell short of the majority he would have needed to win a second term and avoid the May 20 runoff.
“There have been too many people who said we were dead, too many people who said we were way too divisive. There were too many people who said this city should go in a different direction. But the people have said they like the direction,” Nagin said.
alan
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engineer151515:
I believe it might have been Thomas Jefferson wwho offered that people usualy get the kind of government that they do not vote against.
Even if it wasn't Jefferson, it still seems to make sense.
I believe it might have been Thomas Jefferson wwho offered that people usualy get the kind of government that they do not vote against.
Even if it wasn't Jefferson, it still seems to make sense.
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