New Ruger Security 9 Compact

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gc70 said:
When I first got interested in guns people would get agitated over a new breed of "tin-can" guns made with aluminum frames. Such guns were obviously cheap trash that would not hold up to extensive use.

Later, aluminum frames were proven and people focused on new-fangled "plastic" guns made with polymer frames. Yes, such guns were also obviously cheap trash that would not hold up to extensive use.

Even later, polymer frames were accepted and people focused on molded "powdered metal" gun parts or MIM. And again, such guns were also obviously cheap trash that would not hold up to extensive use.

Gun makers have a history of using new materials and processes to make guns at reasonable prices. Of course, we all know that such guns are obviously cheap trash that will not hold up to extensive use.
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I’m sure this was said more than once a while back too:
These new fangled breech loaded guns are just plain dangerous and might blow up too!
 
gc70 said:
In case anyone else fails to recognize sarcasm, a lot of people deride new products because they are somewhat different, and particularly those that are less expensive. Historically, such criticism has often proven to be baseless.
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Interesting perspective but I don't see what has been said here in this particular thread as a malicious attack on the pride of ownership or mocking of Ruger products, rather just a few comments based on an opinion. Question: is this particular product intended to be a high cost specialty item or an entry level budget but functional item?

It is not an insult to say that item X lacks refinement when the truth is that item X lacks refinement, even for the sake of an appealing price tag. Personally I don't care what products anyone buys or likes or dislikes, my focus in this discussion has been an attempt to determine what is so interesting in yet another low cost subcompact 9mm carry gun. The market is completely (yawn) saturated (yawn) with them yet his one is somehow (yawn) special? Why? Because someone likes it? If so that would be an opinion with the same weight as anyone else's opinion here.
 
I'm not sure anyone here "derided" this product in any way. The OP posted a link to a new gun that is substantially similar to a bunch of other guns on the market, and pronounced it "interesting" without any explanation as to why he found it so. A few of us expressed puzzlement as to why that word - interesting - would be applicable to such an apparently-anodyne object. That's not criticism of the object. Plenty of good consumer items are not particularly interesting. Doesn't mean they aren't useful in some way or a worthwhile addition to the marketplace.

I'm typing this on garden-variety logitech wireless keyboard. My IT folks picked it for me, but I like it fine. I used the heck out of it. It works. There are surely other brands and models that are generally very similar, that differ in small ways, but would be perfectly good substitutes. The keyboard is good. It works. It is suitable for my purposes. It is not "interesting." If I wanted to convince someone else that it was interesting, I would need to explain what was interesting about it. Just linking to a photo of it wouldn't really carry the conversation.
 
thomas15 said:
Interesting perspective but I don't see what has been said here in this particular thread as a malicious attack on the pride of ownership or mocking of Ruger products, rather just a few comments based on an opinion.
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That seems quite obtuse after @Trey Veston so directly answered you previously.
Trey Veston said:
I totally implied that Ruger semi-autos are cheaper quality compared to other firearms... :D
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ATLDave said:
I'm not sure anyone here "derided" this product in any way. The OP posted a link to a new gun that is substantially similar to a bunch of other guns on the market, and pronounced it "interesting" without any explanation as to why he found it so. A few of us expressed puzzlement as to why that word - interesting - would be applicable to such an apparently-anodyne object. That's not criticism of the object. Plenty of good consumer items are not particularly interesting. Doesn't mean they aren't useful in some way or a worthwhile addition to the marketplace.

I'm typing this on garden-variety logitech wireless keyboard. My IT folks picked it for me, but I like it fine. I used the heck out of it. It works. There are surely other brands and models that are generally very similar, that differ in small ways, but would be perfectly good substitutes. The keyboard is good. It works. It is suitable for my purposes. It is not "interesting." If I wanted to convince someone else that it was interesting, I would need to explain what was interesting about it. Just linking to a photo of it wouldn't really carry the conversation.
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Perhaps what was interesting was that Ruger had gotten off it’s butt and entered this particular market.
 
gc70 said:
Look a few posts up on this page:


In case anyone else fails to recognize sarcasm, a lot of people deride new products because they are somewhat different, and particularly those that are less expensive. Historically, such criticism has often proven to be baseless.
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Really? So you cannot tell the difference in the build quality of the SR9C from the Security9. Lol, sorry, but at this point, there is nothing I can say if you cannot.
 
Jeb Stuart said:
Really? So you cannot tell the difference in the build quality of the SR9C from the Security9. Lol, sorry, but at this point, there is nothing I can say if you cannot.
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A concise list of the deficiencies that you perceive in build quality might have been informative, but since there is nothing you can say ...
 
gc70 said:
A concise list of the deficiencies that you perceive in build quality might have been informative, but since there is nothing you can say ...
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I do not know where you have been, but I have posted many pics of comparisons more than once. Right on this forum. So how about you actually do a little work and show us your difference since you believe they are equal. Go ahead, show some pics of the two pistols side by side. Should be no problem, you started this, so prove me wrong.
 
If someone likes these pistols that is fine. To be honest I don't think there is anything wrong with them. The way they are made reminds me a lot of a Kel-Tec pistol I used to have. I found something I believed served better in that role & gave the Kel-Tec to a friend. He was & is happy with it. I don't want another Kel-Tec. I like Rugers just fine. I still have an old P-series. It ain't pretty but it works. I really like my SR 1911 & I honestly like the Ruger American Pistol. I never did warm up to the SR series & some of Rugers other offerings. It is all good. If you like these & they work for you go for it. I hope you enjoy it & it serves you well.
 
ATLDave said:
The keyboard is good. It works. It is suitable for my purposes. It is not "interesting." If I wanted to convince someone else that it was interesting, I would need to explain what was interesting about it.
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The keyboard may not be interesting to you but to you IT guys... it might be.. and it might be for reasons that are not interesting to you.

I didn't get the sense that the OP was trying to convince anyone it was interesting to them.


As someone said, it seems like a natural evolution for Ruger in that model.

If I had its big brother and liked it, I too would be interested in it.



.... maybe the market isn't as saturated as some ppl here think. Maybe there is the demand. Heck, a lot of ppl here thought the Ruger PCC wouldn't get built because there isn't demand for it. Total fail on the part of the marketing gurus here.
 
Jeb Stuart said:
I do not know where you have been, but I have posted many pics of comparisons more than once. Right on this forum. So how about you actually do a little work and show us your difference since you believe they are equal. Go ahead, show some pics of the two pistols side by side. Should be no problem, you started this, so prove me wrong.
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I have clearly not been notified about your prior posts concerning the Security 9. If you want to belittle others for not understanding the revelations you believe you have made in other threads, you might provide links; it is not the responsibility of others to search the internet -or even this forum- to find support for your opinions.
 
Some here think that they are doing their favorite firearms maker (or handloading press or dot sight maker or whatever, jacketed bullet maker) a service by trying to protect the company reputation or by getting insulted by those who when asked for an opinion express their opinion which might not be in agreement with the intended purpose of the OP writer. I have nothing against Rugers, I have two (2) MK 3 rimfire pistols that I like a lot but in all honesty I find nothing interesting in the subject of this discussion. And call me a snob if it makes you feel better but for carry purposes I want something a little bit nicer.

OK for years, decades actually all I could afford were entry level firearms but I'm to the point in my life where I'm all entry leveled out. Case in point I have a Remington 870 Express 12 gage. I love the gun, bought it when I had no money to spend and it goes bang every time but I really would love to have a Wingmaster. I would never buy another Express, the fit and finish is utility grade and that is being kind. And that is why it cost way less than $300 new, closer to $250 or so I really forget but if someone wants a nice pump shotgun the Express isn't it.
 
mgresh said:
Sure. Although, I didn't say it had new and innovative features. I have a Security 9 and like it. I find a compact version interesting. They are solid guns at a great price point, IMO. I'm interested to see how it does in a very popular and saturated market segment.
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Will the compact accept a full sized magazine?
 
Trunk Monkey said:
Will the compact accept a full sized magazine?
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Since you are on the subject of full magazine, I thought I would post a pic of the SR9C with full mag. I think Ruger did a good job with the mag sleeve.

The Rap compact weights a tad over 29 oz. Does have nice features. Continuous Plus P, novak sights, modular design.

upload_2019-4-9_20-26-28.png And the Rap compact yq5zEM4.jpg
 
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My experience with Rugers has been subpar. LC9s Pro had rust issues, SR9c had pins falling out and sights coming loose, scout rifle has rust issues. Owned many brands over the years and theirs I would put towards the bottom in quality satisfaction.
 
I think the RAP is a good gun, but the .45 totally didnt fit my hand. Beat my knuckle up something fierce. Beyond that, solid gun and comparable to the other military trial guns.
 
thomas15 said:
Some here think that they are doing their favorite firearms maker (or handloading press or dot sight maker or whatever, jacketed bullet maker) a service by trying to protect the company reputation or by getting insulted by those who when asked for an opinion express their opinion which might not be in agreement with the intended purpose of the OP writer. I have nothing against Rugers, I have two (2) MK 3 rimfire pistols that I like a lot but in all honesty I find nothing interesting in the subject of this discussion. And call me a snob if it makes you feel better but for carry purposes I want something a little bit nicer.

OK for years, decades actually all I could afford were entry level firearms but I'm to the point in my life where I'm all entry leveled out. Case in point I have a Remington 870 Express 12 gage. I love the gun, bought it when I had no money to spend and it goes bang every time but I really would love to have a Wingmaster. I would never buy another Express, the fit and finish is utility grade and that is being kind. And that is why it cost way less than $300 new, closer to $250 or so I really forget but if someone wants a nice pump shotgun the Express isn't it.
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So if this subject is not interesting to you, why are you bothering to post repeatedly in the thread? Nothing you have said in this thread is interesting at all. Perhaps your time would be better spent learning the proper spelling of the words you use and brushing up on the rules of grammar. THAT would be interesting!
 
needmorecowbell said:
My experience with Rugers has been subpar. LC9s Pro had rust issues, SR9c had pins falling out and sights coming loose, scout rifle has rust issues. Owned many brands over the years and theirs I would put towards the bottom in quality satisfaction.
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I've had good luck with my Ruger firearms. Single Six, LC9s Pro, 10/22, Mini 14. Where is your LC9s rusting at? I have sweated all over mine and nary a hint of rust. I wear it while working outside a lot due to small size and lightweight.
 
stevekozak said:
So if this subject is not interesting to you, why are you bothering to post repeatedly in the thread? Nothing you have said in this thread is interesting at all. Perhaps your time would be better spent learning the proper spelling of the words you use and brushing up on the rules of grammar. THAT would be interesting!
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Because stevekozak, I asked the question at the very beginning of this thread and no one has been able to properly give a satisfactory answer.

I hope this satisfies your curiosity.
 
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