So last week I got denied, I thought it might be from my drivers license info being different from my current address. So I went to the DMV change the info on my license and I still got delayed. The only thing on my record is a couple Disorderly conducts from 11 years ago. And with my current job if I had anything that would bar me from buying a gun I would not be employed very long. I posted last week and got some good info on what to do. I am still waiting on the paper from the first denial to see what the cause was. I was sure it was the license thing.
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UnknownGunMan
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Did those disorderly conducts involve battery on an officer?
If you have any assault/battery on a police officer, or domestic dispute charge (even misdemeanor), you will get denied.
You can get an appeal packet from the ATF.
They usually don't care about your address, because when a dealer calls in that 4473 form, the FBI in VA does NOT ask for address.
They ask for Name, DOB, Social Sec#, State of Residence, Height, Weight, Race, US citizen/dual citizen, and type of firearm.
If you have a common name like John Smith, and you do not give a Social Sec #, then you will most likely get delayed or denied.
There could be 5000 people in the US with your same name, so if you don't give they social sec #, they won't know which one of you it is.
I would suggest getting the Application of Unique Personal Identification Number from ATF, after you appeal.
If you have any assault/battery on a police officer, or domestic dispute charge (even misdemeanor), you will get denied.
You can get an appeal packet from the ATF.
They usually don't care about your address, because when a dealer calls in that 4473 form, the FBI in VA does NOT ask for address.
They ask for Name, DOB, Social Sec#, State of Residence, Height, Weight, Race, US citizen/dual citizen, and type of firearm.
If you have a common name like John Smith, and you do not give a Social Sec #, then you will most likely get delayed or denied.
There could be 5000 people in the US with your same name, so if you don't give they social sec #, they won't know which one of you it is.
I would suggest getting the Application of Unique Personal Identification Number from ATF, after you appeal.
Were you the person who purchased the High Point for a night stand gun and has a security clearance?
If so, I don't remember the disorderly conduct charges mentioned in the previous posts.
I would continue the process of getting your UPIN. That should clear up any issues.
Also, getting delayed isn't the same as getting denied. You may still get an approval in the next three days.
If so, I don't remember the disorderly conduct charges mentioned in the previous posts.
I would continue the process of getting your UPIN. That should clear up any issues.
Also, getting delayed isn't the same as getting denied. You may still get an approval in the next three days.
mcdonl
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I get delayed just about everytime I buy a gun. No reason given other than "further investigation needed" - Depending on the time of day, the further investigation takes place while I am on hold. Sometimes it is the next day.
Breathe. You will be fine.
Breathe. You will be fine.
Cosmoline
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There's a BIG difference between a delay and a denial. Delays happen all the time often because a name is similar to someone else or because of a glitch in the records. Denials mean the brakes are on, and you must proceed through channels. Getting a lawyer is not a bad idea. It's a very serious matter.
Once you get a denial, trying again with other purchases is a BAD idea. It's not a dice roll. And trying to guess at the problem and attempting another purchase is unwise. Very unwise. You have to proceed carefully until you can get the mess cleared up. There could be something more than you realized.
Once you get a denial, trying again with other purchases is a BAD idea. It's not a dice roll. And trying to guess at the problem and attempting another purchase is unwise. Very unwise. You have to proceed carefully until you can get the mess cleared up. There could be something more than you realized.
I am waiting now, I just figured the dl address was the issue. I have heard plenty of horror stories of people getting denied and that was the reason. Im not a felon or a domestic abuser and I am sure there is nothing on my record that will bar me from purchasing a gun. I asked the lawyer that handled my disorderly conduct and the verified that was not a reason to bar me.
dogtown tom
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FBI NICS does not ask for your address:
Last Name
First Name
Middle Name
Cadence (Jr., Sr., II)
Place of birth
Height
Weight
Gender
Birthdate
Social Security #(optional)
Race
State of residence
Country of citizenship
Type of firearm
*************************************
But........if you were attempting to purchase anything other than a rifle or shotgun you would need to be a resident of the same state as the licensed dealer AND over age 21.
sonick808
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do you have a common name ?
Black Butte
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Wouldn't it be nice to "deny" the government its demanded tax payment on the grounds it failed to pass a fiscal responsibility background check?
Cosmoline
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Figured out from where? There's a formal process you go through after a denial where you request the reason and you're sent a response.
Cosmoline
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That's a thin reed to rest on. You really need to hold off until you receive the official response to your inquiry.
dogtown tom
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You'll be throwing your $$$ away.
If you can fill out a form and follow simple directions you can file your appeal by yourself. If it is a case of mistaken identity the FBI will grant your appeal. If it turns out your denial was based on a prohibiting factor such as a conviction, etc. that is in error........THEN get a lawyer. If the denial is due to a prohibiting factor that you forgot about......a lawyer may not be of much help unless the conviction occured while you were a minor.
Cosmoline
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This is not something to mess around with or ASSUME it's just mistaken identity and easily clarified. These are dangerous waters and the potential for a screwup is very real. For example, a lawyer could have told you not to attempt more purchases after the first denial. Sometimes it's something that can be cleared up, but the prohibiting factors are far from clear. One example--conviction of a misdemeanor with a *potential* sentence of over a year. That's snagged many people. Even if you didn't serve a single day of a sentence, it can still bar you.
waterhouse
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Just to be clear, since both have been said, did you get delayed or did you get denied? There is a huge difference an the terms are not interchangeable.
Maverick223
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So have you tried purchasing a firearm thrice or did they tell you that your status was changed to "delayed"?
Maverick223
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I see; that is seemingly good news.
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