No more THR at work for me !

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Should such happen at my workplace I'd have to have long, serious talk with the companies SysAdmin. Fortunately, thats unlikely to happen. Good thing to, for some reason people get upset when they see me shouting curses at my reflection in the mirror. :D
 
Here is a novel idea, OBEY the rules at work and if you want to surf the NET during lunch use a personally owned laptop. How about a little integrity here? Shame on you guys for suggesting he use a proxy. You won't feel so smart when he loses his job, will you?

BTW, don't bother to flame me for what I've said because I don't give a rats ass.
 
Instead of typing the domain name into the address bar of your browser...try using this instead:

209.51.144.70

Some web filtering packages only filter on the domain name and don't do such a good job on the IP addresses. They could also be filtering on content such as 'gun' or 'weapons' sites.


This won't work. if your company uses websense, it filters contents, not ip or domain name. It's more sophisticated than just a simple trick.
 
I guess I'm happy being the IT manager. No blocking of any gun sites. :D Actually I don't block anything, too much of a headache to manage.
 
Heh. Suddenly I'm grateful that I am the IT staff.

All one of us.

Same thing here. I just looked on my schedule and I have no plans to block myself from any gun related sites. Man, if that ever happens I sure will be pissed at myself. :)
 
I suppose I'm the odd sort that wouldn't care what employees were doing with occasional perusing of legal websites, as long as they weren't revealing company secrets and were getting all their work done.

They're supposed to be trusted employees, not galley slaves.

I would think people on THIS board would be against content filters and such, as it's the same "treat everyone like a criminal because someone might be" mentality that applies to gun laws. If you treat all your employees as if you can't trust them, they might well start living up to that lack of trust.

Trust goes a long way. Suspicion breeds resentment, contempt and rebellion.
 
Here is a novel idea, OBEY the rules at work and if you want to surf the NET during lunch use a personally owned laptop

All companies are not the same and therefor do not all have the same rules. Personally, the company I work for has a policy stating that the computer may be used for personal use during business hours as long as it doesn't interfere with work being completed in a timely manner...which basically puts it at the branch managers discretion.


As far as the suggestions of a proxy or VPN, etc..they are simply that...suggestions. The choice lies with the individual, no harm in giving them more information.
 
I am the IT police where I work, and we block this site also. BUT being the IT police im not blocked from anything HA HA HA its so great having all the power.

J
 
We have web filters for illegal stuff and porn but you can keep morale higher by letting people occasionally peruse the net or take care of personal business like banking or schooling as long as they get their work done.
 
My workplace uses WebSense. Which blocks most things firearms related (weapons category). It also blocks game sites, porn, etc. Fortunately, our boss is the generous sort who lets us surf the web during work time so long as all our work is done. And since I'm an EMS dispatcher, it works pretty well for us. We work when there's calls to be dispatched, but in between, we can surf the web with no problem as long as all our work is getting done.
 
I also am the sole IT guy where I work; I block google.com, but not google.ca (disables the toolbar link to google, but staff know to use the .ca). I block myspace, numerous pornsites, and even some news sites, since kids will work themselves up over disasters in the news.

I've helped my boss order baseball tickets, helped staff shop on QVC, etc.; it's a convenience when we aren't busy with other things. So, as the IT guy, I keep up to date on things I need to know about, like disaster planning.
 
I am very lucky I work in the entertainment industry, so nothing is off limits. When you need to do research who knows what web sites I just might need to go to.
With that said I have found if you never take advantage or abuse privileges then you most likely will never be questioned, I am also one of the first to arrive at work and usually the last to leave, if you work harder and smarter then most others you can also usually get by with more too.
 
Two options: Tor (installs to the system) or Torpark (runs from a USB drive or otherwise without registry modifications). Works like a charm and circumvents those irritating policies (a bit slow, though).

Alternatively, set up a proxy at home and route all traffic through it.
 
I also am the sole IT guy where I work; I block google.com, but not google.ca (disables the toolbar link to google, but staff know to use the .ca). I block myspace, numerous pornsites, and even some news sites, since kids will work themselves up over disasters in the news.

Being in NJ, why in the world would you block google.com but require them to go through google.ca? That's confusing.
 
The easy answer is to say that one should only visit work related sites when at work. However, in most cases that's not what happens. It all depends on policy and management decisions as to what one can get away with.

At one of the previous places that I worked at, I was a Network Administrator, but a more apt term was "tech support peon who sometimes gets tasked with other things". I hated it, and tried to find more things to do of a productive nature, but for the most part I'd spend over 60% of the day on the phone doing tech support for remote locations. This, combined with the apparent unwillingness to give me any real responsibility, led to me having a lot of down time.

I left the job as soon as possible, but while I was still there I'd spend most of my time on the phone surfing while I talked. I don't entirely remember if I needed a proxy to get onto gun sites, but I suspect it's the case, as I would use an open proxy (this predated the existence of tor). It saved my sanity, because even when on the phone most of the calls were over 50% waiting, and then the majority of the actual talking was simply walking them through quickly-memorized procedures that I could rattle off in my sleep (and, according to my wife, I would so just that on occasion).
 
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im pretty computer illiterate but how can "they" tell where you've been?
if you delete cookies regularly will that help?
 
This is a huge problem for me as I don't have internet access at home, but the firewall at my workplace blocks every firearms related site EXCEPT THR (thank God!). I used to go on TFL and look at all the other forums, but now I can't. This is why when someone tells me to go check out ar15.com, I have to ask them to copy the text here b/c I can't view ar15.com. It's really frustrating. Then everyone thinks I'm stupid b/c I can't do my own price search on the gun auction sites to find out a good price for something. Soon I'm hoping to get internet access at home again, but right now finances prohibit it.

I suppose I'm the odd sort that wouldn't care what employees were doing with occasional perusing of legal websites, as long as they weren't revealing company secrets and were getting all their work done.

I would think people on THIS board would be against content filters and such, as it's the same "treat everyone like a criminal because someone might be" mentality that applies to gun laws. If you treat all your employees as if you can't trust them, they might well start living up to that lack of trust.

Trust goes a long way. Suspicion breeds resentment, contempt and rebellion.

I couldn't have said it better myself. The whole notion of punishing everyone b/c of the sins of a few is the problem with our country right now. Our laws are based on the scumbag minority who do bad things. Yet everyone else is treated as a potential criminal. Antis use this by trying to ban guns just in case one of the 90 million + gun owners decides to commit a crime. They punish the other 89,999,999 of us b/c of the potential that one of us may one day decide to use a firearm to commit a crime. What happened to "innocent until proven guilty"? We're all assumed guilty by the antis. We might as well be living in the movie Minority Report.

I work harder than anyone else when I'm at work. I'm more efficient than almost anyone here. Because of that, I get more down time b/c I finish my work quickly. I surf on down time only. There are legitimate times when there is nothing to do. They are rare, but they happen. I never leave my responsibilities to surf the net. I think companies should have a policy where surfing is OK on down time provided the work still gets done. If a person violates that rule, then discipline or fire that individual, but don't punish everyone else for that individual's mistake.

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Doh! I just tried going to a proxy web site, but my workplace's firewall blocks any "proxy" site! :cuss: And here I was hoping I might get to visit some other sites. :mad:
 
At my work, they don't block anything. And I mean anything. You have to be extra careful when clicking on strange links. There have been a few times in the past when NSFW content popped up. Man, talk about freaking out and moving fast to get it off the screen. :D
 
im pretty computer illiterate but how can "they" tell where you've been?
if you delete cookies regularly will that help?

Every site that you visit is most likely logged by the company's servers. If they have a good IT shop, if they wanted to, they could see what you have on your screen without you knowing.
 
im pretty computer illiterate but how can "they" tell where you've been?
if you delete cookies regularly will that help?

Deleting cookies most likely won't make any difference. Checking cookies is not a particularly efficient way to monitor usage. While there are plenty of software options for employers to watch what you are doing right at the desktop, most of the information they get from their routers/proxies/firewalls. There are a wide variety of ways to capture this information. Many IT departments log internet usage. This is often transparent to the user. Even the "more tricky" options listed above such as Tor, VPN, and proxies are pretty easily for a skilled IT guy to spot. Then you have the added problem of not only screwing around on the company's dime, but also trying to hide it.

Basically, if you want to be safe, don't do anything at work you wouldn't want your boss to know about. This includes emails, surfing the net, working on your resume, etc. Some places don't mind so much. Others, however, will nail you for any messing around. Regardless, remember that pretty much everything you do on your computer at work is your company's business and there are ways for them to check it out.
 
MrTuffPaws said:
At my work, they don't block anything. And I mean anything. You have to be extra careful when clicking on strange links. There have been a few times in the past when NSFW content popped up. Man, talk about freaking out and moving fast to get it off the screen.

Same at my office. We do have an unpaid lunch, and policy is we can use our connection during lunch and outside core hours. Only restrictions: keep it clean & keep it short. Abusers have been fined & fired.
 
im pretty computer illiterate but how can "they" tell where you've been?
if you delete cookies regularly will that help?

It can, depending on how large the organization is, what kind of network infrastructure there is, the kinds of network reporting software used, and how pedantically intrusive the policy requires them to be. Them, being the IT department. Lots of factors other than mentioned, too. In generally, deleting cookies will only 'help' in this regard if the extent of their infrastructure is a cable modem and a single switch - or, say, in a network environment with no dedicated support or administrative staff.

Your outgoing and ingoing traffic can basically be intercepted, monitored, modified at any point 'upstream' from your physical connection point. This includes and is not limited to the network switches, monitoring servers, proxy servers, the gateway, or even outside the corporate network (though usually not by the company themselves). They can aggregate connection statistics for each user or a group based on web site, user, computer, IP address, time, and a dozen other things. They can monitor HTTP (ie web site) data flow real-time - for instance, by monitoring the network and viewing every image that goes through a given switch, router, or other network mechanism. They can do this all at the click of a mouse using readily available software (some of it free).

This does not apply to encrypted connections, though such connections have their own inherrent problems (ie it can draw suspicion to you if you're not in IT and don't have a particular reason to be using encrypted http/web connections - generally, they're just used for shopping carts and other such practices).

A proxy basically allows you to use a single connection point outside the network, bypassing any internal network proxys (which are where they ban material), with your own set of filters (if you want - you can do some neat things in this manner if you've got the knowhow). Open, anon proxies are generally filterless, but also fairly slow and unencrypted, so they offer little advantage while not encrypting the data and pushing all your connections through a single point - something which will set off an alarm if they're watching for such behavior.

What tor and torpark do is create a distributed, encrypted proxy network; in the case of torpark, it will not save any cache data whatsoever, either. Tor is a standalone proxy distrubution package, and Torpark is just a slightly-repackaged versions of firefox with tor built-in. If you use either of these programs, all your web connections will be routed somewhat randomly around the world, encrypted, to other Tor and Torpark users, who will then make the web page requests to the servers, and send the resulting page back to you. Each new request will likely be through a different host, if it's available. It's slow, but generally fairly reliable, making your Internet trail all but untraceable back to you from the servers you're requesting data from. However, a competent network administrator will still be able to recognize the useage pattern of Tor, and may call you on it - though knowing the mentality of most competent admins I've met, I'd say the chances are slim, short of making sure you're not looking at child porn at work or doing something to undermine his network security.
 
I can get onto THR once per computer I log into. I think the IT guys have me flagged...

Damn large companies... And damn the smaller ones for noncompetitive pay!
 
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