troy fairweather
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Get a bb gun or pellet gun to stay busy.
Not shooting now
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twarr1
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I’ve actually increased my shooting and sold or given away ammunition (at normal prices) to those that needed it. I didn’t hoard it beforehand, I reload. If I shoot factory, I buy 2x and shoot half.
Frankly, the boasts about “Yaw stupid! I bought 27 million rounds and a train car load of primers ‘fore the drought” are getting old.
There’s a happy medium.
Frankly, the boasts about “Yaw stupid! I bought 27 million rounds and a train car load of primers ‘fore the drought” are getting old.
There’s a happy medium.
trackskippy
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There is a happy medium, but if you dont stockpile a reasonable amount, and like to shoot, youre probably not going to be happy. 
I had a mixed boat load of primers at the start of all this silliness, and Im now down to less than a couple of thousand of each, and have started using small rifle primers in my pistols. But.....I have been shooting two to three times a week all along, and everything Ive shot is reloaded. Ill be OK for a good while, but, unless things improve, I wont be restoring what I shoot as I go, and that will bug me.
I had a mixed boat load of primers at the start of all this silliness, and Im now down to less than a couple of thousand of each, and have started using small rifle primers in my pistols. But.....I have been shooting two to three times a week all along, and everything Ive shot is reloaded. Ill be OK for a good while, but, unless things improve, I wont be restoring what I shoot as I go, and that will bug me.
.308 Norma
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I probably have enough centerfire components, as well as rimfire ammo to see me through this mess - whatever "this mess" is. But I'm taking it a little easier, and not shooting as much lately. For example, I've never been one of those "mag dump" guys, but when our grandsons were younger, I think I probably allowed each of them to use my 10-22 to "dump" a few magazines. I wouldn't do that nowadays. Besides, all of our grandsons are grown and gone, and have their own guns and ammunition.
Also, my wife and I have some rancher friends that ask us over to shoot ground squirrels on their property in the spring. If we do that next spring, we will be trying harder to make every shot count.
Also, my wife and I have some rancher friends that ask us over to shoot ground squirrels on their property in the spring. If we do that next spring, we will be trying harder to make every shot count.
twarr1
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One thing I have done, when I take people shooting, which is often, I only load 5 in a magazine rather than 17, 20, 30. People usually shoot the entire magazine.
Ignition Override
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Troy fairweather:
In the late 60’s (19–Not 1860s) my brother's buddy had a Sheridan .22 pellet rifle.
You pumped that high-quality gun only Once (?), with the massive wooden (lower) handguard and the pellet had a nice velocity.
Either they are no longer manufactured (?), or I would bet that the quality slipped, as with Crosman in the 80’s. Those later Crossmans didn't pressurize nearly as well as they Had, in the late 60's. And these didn't feel as 'tight'.
In the late 60’s (19–Not 1860s) my brother's buddy had a Sheridan .22 pellet rifle.
You pumped that high-quality gun only Once (?), with the massive wooden (lower) handguard and the pellet had a nice velocity.
Either they are no longer manufactured (?), or I would bet that the quality slipped, as with Crosman in the 80’s. Those later Crossmans didn't pressurize nearly as well as they Had, in the late 60's. And these didn't feel as 'tight'.
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trackskippy
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I think Benjamin took over the Sheridan line back in the late 90's, early 2000's.
Unless things changed, the minimum number of pumps with one, at least according to themanual, was 3, with 8 being the max. 3 would just dent one of the old steel trash cans, 8 usually punched through one side of it, and put a dent in the other.
Unless things changed, the minimum number of pumps with one, at least according to themanual, was 3, with 8 being the max. 3 would just dent one of the old steel trash cans, 8 usually punched through one side of it, and put a dent in the other.
FL-NC
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I have begun to accept that recreational shooting/training to the highest attainable standard is a "life cycle" activity for me, currently in its "twilight", and will eventually erode into minimal training to sustain minimal proficiency, and maybe occasionally shooting something to eat. This of course is due to the dramatically increased costs and lack of availability of required supplies to sustain the activity. Hope I'm wrong, but don't think I am.
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My high end pellet guns keep me going. With the current supply problems, even quality pellets are hard to come by but I have a good stock and shoot the pellet guns every day.
My PCP guns have better accuracy than most 22's out to 50 yards and that is refreshing especially when "dudes" at the range chuckle when I use the pellet guns. They stop chuckling after some money gets put on the table and the challenge I pose to them gets lost and I collect.
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Ive been both now for a couple of years. I guess it depends on your situation and what you want. Ive always shot a lot, good times and bad, and havent had too much trouble figuring out a way to be able to continue do so. You just have to decide what your priorities are.
As was mentioned, just stopping one vice, can open up a lot of money. A pack of smokes costs about the same as a box of 9mm when bought by the case. That works out to about a case and a half of ammo a month, and your health and shooting will be better for the change too.
I am a retired construction guy and on a fixed income. My Dad was a contractor for almost 60 years. Sometimes 6 months would go by without any income. I learned early on to plan ahead. No shortage at my house. Have increased my shooting lately (golf season is over).
bassjam
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I had enough components saved up for about 5 years for my handguns, and I've been shooting the same amount as normal. I'm confident enough I'll be able to buy more withing the next 3 years.
I'm a little lower on rifle components and have been shooting less but it has little to do with availability of components. It just takes way more effort to process .223 brass and I've been putting off cleaning out all the brass I have with crimped primer pockets!
I'm a little lower on rifle components and have been shooting less but it has little to do with availability of components. It just takes way more effort to process .223 brass and I've been putting off cleaning out all the brass I have with crimped primer pockets!
Reloadron
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Something needs a little consideration here. Many of us are on the classic term "fixed income" and for some fixed income can be a smaller or larger amount. Then we have the newer young shooters who while they enjoy the shooting sports have other greater responsibilities. Things like feeding little mouths, mortgage payments and other things which come well before hobbies like shooting sports. Simply put many of us here simply do not have a money surplus.
Not everyone is afforded the luxury of having 250,000 primers on a shelf or 10,000 rounds of ammunition ready to go. Yet, every time a thread like this comes along, remembering a few dozen following Sandy Hook, some members just feel an overwhelming need to criticize those who are not butt deep in supplies. It's not like an apocalypse has come along. Some need to lighten up a little on those who are less fortunate and have other priorities which come before having ammunition to shoot or more guns to shoot it.
When Cabela's was blowing out Seller & Bellot primers at $18 per 1K I decided to order 5,000 Large Rifle. I screwed up and ordered twice. No big deal as the additional $100 was not a problem at all but for some that $100 is maybe the difference between making and missing a utility payment. A $100 is nothing, chump change, unless you don't have $100 in which case it's an unsurmountable amount of money.
One more thing, if anyone in the Cleveland, Ohio suburbs is in dire need of some large rifle primers just shoot me a PM. I'll give you 1,000 and won't even critique your lack of planning.
Ron
Not everyone is afforded the luxury of having 250,000 primers on a shelf or 10,000 rounds of ammunition ready to go. Yet, every time a thread like this comes along, remembering a few dozen following Sandy Hook, some members just feel an overwhelming need to criticize those who are not butt deep in supplies. It's not like an apocalypse has come along. Some need to lighten up a little on those who are less fortunate and have other priorities which come before having ammunition to shoot or more guns to shoot it.
When Cabela's was blowing out Seller & Bellot primers at $18 per 1K I decided to order 5,000 Large Rifle. I screwed up and ordered twice. No big deal as the additional $100 was not a problem at all but for some that $100 is maybe the difference between making and missing a utility payment. A $100 is nothing, chump change, unless you don't have $100 in which case it's an unsurmountable amount of money.
One more thing, if anyone in the Cleveland, Ohio suburbs is in dire need of some large rifle primers just shoot me a PM. I'll give you 1,000 and won't even critique your lack of planning.
Ron
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Sorry that I open a can of worms with this post,from now on I probably not post anything any more sorry
Bruce, your post was just fine. Please understand that there are no perfect humans and we all worry about things. Responses to such a post tell us a lot about the person who is responding, but are no reflection on you although it may feel that way.
Criticism of someone who is feeling the pinch probably is more about frustration and futility felt by the poster, but may include a bit of holier-than-thou attitude that fortunately isn't common in this community. Keep on posting. We'll help if we can, commiserate if we can't, and criticize if we can't come up with anything helpful but just have to comment.
No need to be sorry deputy. This is pretty normal here. Keep on posting.
These are nice thoughts and even though it's easy to baby grown men and women by saying they had hard fiscal times and were unable to buy much needed supplies unfortunately it's a lie. For the entirety of the Trump presidency every retailer was blowing out supplies of every type. Primers were between 30-45 dollars per thousand, powder $15-30 per pound, etc.
All anyone had to do was skip a few McDonald's meals, a case of beer, bottle of liquor, cigarettes, vaping,dipping, fast food, movies, etc and they had money for primers or powder. They did not prioritiz shooting and now they want to cry, people need to accept this and own it.
I did not stock pile ammo or anything I just bought supplies as I saved up for them by doing the above.
I have no desire to help the idoits of the world, however a new shooter I will dump all the supplies they need to be successful.
Guess that makes me mean and bitter
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TomJ
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Bruce,
This forum allows you to ignore member's posts. I don't use that frequently but there are a couple of members who I ignore due to what they post. As others stated the issue isn't your post but with a couple of other members. Don't let them stop you from participating here.
By way of suggestion, another member suggested a bb or pellet gun. I'd also suggest a .22 as that ammunition is available and is less expensive that other calibers. It'll involve investing in a .22 handgun or rifle if you don't have one, but that investment quickly pays for itself and allows you to keep shooting. I've been shooting significantly more .22's lately.
No need to feel that way, it's a subject that can be viewed from multiple viewpoints. Everyone is going to see it different and respond differently.
Keep on posting and have fun
.308 Norma
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Yep, it's been a long while and I don't remember the figures, but I once took my Sheridan "Blue Streak" out on the rear deck and shot it across my chronograph - starting with 3 pumps, and adding one pump for every shot, all the way up to 8. Like I said, I don't remember the figures, but I do remember the increase in velocity with each additional pump was fairly linear.
BTW, with 8 pumps, my .20 caliber "Blue Streak" will punch a hole clear through a tin can (or a starling) on the garden fence - about 30 yards from the rear deck. So will my older .22 caliber Benjamin. The only thing is, my wife won't use either rifle - because about 30 years ago she closed the Benjamin's pump handle on one of the protuberances on her chest.
huntsman
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My question to the OP would be what’s the plan going forward if primers remain scarce or cost prohibitive?
I know the sentiment seems to be things will improve eventually.
But this is all uncharted territory and requires a bit of planning if the goal is to CYA ammo wise.
I know the sentiment seems to be things will improve eventually.
But this is all uncharted territory and requires a bit of planning if the goal is to CYA ammo wise.
CoalCrackerAl
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Im heading to the range today. And sight my 30.06 back in.
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