david58
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CBS and Uncle Joe have gone for it. A nice rehearsed talk about banning armor piercing rounds, since that is the kind of ammo that killed the Dallas policemen.
Here we go again....
David
Here we go again....
David
Bet they were surplus military green tip or equivalent.
He used an SKS.
Then probably the ammo that is attracted to a magnet. Number of threads on here about how some gun ranges consider that armor piercing and ban its use.
The latest photos show a Saiga or other AK variant.He used an SKS.
The latest photos show a Saiga or other AK variant.
Is 7N10, 7N22 or 7N24 still (or has it ever been) imported?It was an AK-74
http://lawofficer.com/2016/07/exclusive-photo-of-the-saiga-ak-74-rifle-used-at-dallas-shooting/
So... not an SKS.
It probably WAS armor piercing ammo then (assuming surplus). They said he had been training. Probably but a bunch of it.
He may very well have used steel core ammo, I have not ready anyone who said he did or didn't. Many gun ranges do ban the use of steel core ammo. I don't think the media even knows (or cares) what he used. They are just using this as a talking point. Most any high velocity rifle round will defeat vest designed for pistol rounds.
The media will just use this as an opportunity to talk bad about guns and in this case ammo.
Don't give them any ideas... :banghead:By liberal logic any bullet that can penetrate soft body armor is "armor piercing". Looks like we need to ban all rifles more powerful then a 22mag. And some handgun calibers has well.....
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Virtually nobody has steel core ammo. Ammo you can buy at retail is not steel core.
I disagree. I have tons of old WWII surplus 7.62x54r steel core ammo. Part of the reason I still have it is that I can only shoot it at my outdoor range during the winter months. In the summer months, it gets so dry that sparks from steel core ammo can start fires.You are mistaken.
Virtually nobody has steel core ammo. Ammo you can buy at retail is not steel core.
There is steel jacketed ammo being sold, generally it is a bi-metal bullet with some copper cladding the steel, but the steel is in the jacket, not the core. It is banned at a lot of indoor ranges because it sparks against the backstop and the ranges say it is an increased risk of fire (I think it also wears the backstop down faster?). Outdoor ranges out west in dry/fire seasons ban it for the same spark/fire reason as well, I am told
I disagree. I have tons of old WWII surplus 7.62x54r steel core ammo. Part of the reason I still have it is that I can only shoot it at my outdoor range during the winter months. In the summer months, it gets so dry that sparks from steel core ammo can start fires.
It is very destructive to indoor ranges because it damages the backstops. I must not be the only one around who has it. All three of the indoor ranges in my area either require that you use their ammo or allow them to run a magnet over any ammo you carry in. The range in Ogden actually has pictures of the holes in their backstops that someone made with steel core ammo that prompted the policy.
As for a vest being able to stop it... Forget about it. They won't even slow down non-steel core ammo from most rifles.
Ammo with steel in the jacket fails the magnet test and is often not allowed at indoor ranges, it is also far more common than steel core.
True. They don't like the steel jackets either. It probably adds too much effort to their side business of selling range brass.
You are mistaken.
Virtually nobody has steel core ammo