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Part of the skill that these Olympic shooters possess is wind estimation and trajectory. Those two items are removed from the equation so it's like shooting in a complete vacuum without gravity.

Man, could I ever do better on prairie dogs at 1000 yards !! I'd just shoot and if the laser hit them (& how could it not?) I'd yell for them to fall over dead. Cool.
 
Law enforcement already train certain groups using "Simunitions" for portions of their training programs. I think cycling is going to have a change too. They are going to the stationary bike for better anti-doping control and tv coverage. It seems a shame to turn the pentathalon into an arcade amusement.
 
Now, runners should be on treadmills, swimmers in 2 ft pools going one at a time, pole vault, high-jump, jav, disc, (whatever the heavy ball is called,) wrestling, power lifting, and badminton should be eliminated altogether as they are just too dangerous.


BUT, imagine the world record scores!!!!!
 
Law enforcement already train certain groups using "Simunitions" for portions of their training programs.
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It's not quite the same as the Olympics are doing. Simunitions allow for interactive force on force training. This way we can teach live gunfighting & shooting at moving targets that shoot back without killing each other. At least here in WI it can't replace square range live fire training.
 
Hey, maybe some enterprising country will figure a way to amp up the lasers... That could be cool!

On the other hand, I wonder about the supposed cost savings: I can shoot an airgun in my house. Traps aren't that expensive and anyone who makes it to the Olympics ought to be able to hit one of those. That being said, holding competitions in parking lots and shopping malls might spur an interest in the shooting sports.
 
so how fast will this laser be travelling? what about the small and gentle kick from the gun that u need to keep steady since the bullet is still inside the barrel?
why not just change it to fingerpainting while they are at it!
 
minor point, but yall might want to look up the record on that javelin safety thingy...

see quite a number of spectators AND TRACK Officials have been killed, they redesigned the official javelin and added weight after the world record was broken, by impaling a guy in the 6th?? row of the stands (not field seating)


SO can anybody name a time somebody was SHOT at a track a field event???
 
This is a dangerous evolution for European shooters. We need permits for about any firearm and need to proof a reason to own guns. And the main reason is ""sport", "self defence" is NOT an acceptable reason in most European countries. (we have the POLICE to protect us:scrutiny:)
With this gismo, the antis can say we don't need real firearms to do shooting sports, we can play with nintendo to do sports.
By the way, the pentatlon competion was shot with air-pistols with max 7.5 joule power and no recoil. I have a 10 metre stand in my basement for practice and this can be done in any location with a simple sheet metal bullet catcher-card holder and a 1/2 inch thick fibreboard backstop.
 
The Olympic sports are so heavily stylized that they are almost like kabuki. What have the fencing events to do with real sword fighting and how much like a real blade are the swords? The modern Olympics have always had so much political BS, cheating, and chicanery that I just don't care if they have shooting events at all.
 
This is so stupid its not even funny :( The country I live in ruining a shooting sport because of health and safety issues. i dont even know what to say :(

Surely professional Pentathletes are going to refuse to comete in what is essentially a completely different even than what they have been training in for years?
 
Henry K. Ruger said:
Law enforcement already train certain groups using "Simunitions" for portions of their training programs.
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Training is a different matter. For example, I've used a laser as a training aid for trigger control, and there are certain aspects of training for which I use an Airsoft replica of my defensive pistol. The skills that are learned must then be applied to real fire training because lasers and Airsoft are not going to get the job done against real bad guys.

The question is what aspects of shooting should be incorporated into a world-class athletic competition. In my opinion, shooting has already been watered-down more than enough in the Olympics, and now in the pentathlon it has been reduced to a narrow subset of isolated skills related to shooting rather than actual shooting (at least the old airguns launched projectiles that had mass and were affected physically by environmental conditions).

Radium said:
so how fast will this laser be travelling?
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I hope that's a rhetorical question. :scrutiny:

vaupet said:
This is a dangerous evolution for European shooters. We need permits for about any firearm and need to proof a reason to own guns. And the main reason is ""sport", "self defence" is NOT an acceptable reason in most European countries. (we have the POLICE to protect us:scrutiny:)
With this gismo, the antis can say we don't need real firearms to do shooting sports, we can play with nintendo to do sports.
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It's only a matter of time, isn't it? :uhoh::( Now would be the time to think of how to defend against it. This thread has gone over the basic reasons. Let's not get too alarmed over this just yet, though, because I'm sure everybody knows that there would be more resistance to such a vile concept outside of the Olympics.
 
What have the fencing events to do with real sword fighting and how much like a real blade are the swords?
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I fence and the swords are pretty similar. Fencing used to be how people practiced for duels, so I'd say it's close to real sword fighting. The point of fencing is to basically stab the other person without being stabbed yourself, so I'd say that that's a lot like an actual fight. The only thing that's really been modified is that you have to stay on the one meter wide strip. Other than that, and the modifications needed for safety and scoring it's a lot like real sword fighting.
 
Back in mid-February, in a thread about the Biathlon, I had a sort-of premonition that they would force Laser Tag onto these athletes.
 
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