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NYPD to begin testing a new high-tech device to scan for concealed handguns

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by sharpshooter74, Jan 23, 2013.

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  1. sharpshooter74

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    NYPD Commissioner says department will begin testing a new high-tech device that scans for concealed weapons

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nypd-readies-scan-and-frisk-article-1.1245663#ixzz2IpvJJxZH


    Get ready for scan-and-frisk.

    The NYPD will soon deploy new technology allowing police to detect guns carried by criminals without using the typical pat-down procedure, Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said Wednesday.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nypd-readies-scan-and-frisk-article-1.1245663

    I have a feeling it won't be the criminals that they'll be checking out and frisking. Lawfully concealed carry handgun owners will probably be frisked and checked to see if their handguns have more than 7 rounds in it.

    If this technology improves, it might even be used by all of New York to scan through people's houses if they have any " Assault Weapons " that are unregistered.
     
  2. Airborne Falcon

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    lulz - why anyone chooses to remain in that state, or as it has now become a communist country, is beyond me.

    We seriously need to consider, as a country, moving Wall Street, etc., the heck outta there.
     
  3. Texan Scott

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    I see serious 4a issues ahead.
     
  4. miller.lyte

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    Does New York even know what the Constitution is?
     
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    Sounds like an illegal search.
     
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    Has anyone in NYC ever heard of "probable cause"? I also wonder if the machine would search for sugary drinks over 16 oz?
     
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    This technology has actually been around for awhile. When I last saw it it seemed that any metal object would display similarly to a firearm. It was suggested that folks carry around metal rods (which actually were convincingly close to guns depending on the angle) in protest. I would suggest a fashion of clothing that has a metal liner be introduced as well.

    That being said I hope this technology is outlawed. Even if it is for your own good comrades..
     
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    20oz. sodas are a danger; but the radiation coming out of this thing is A-OK.

    I mean, protecting everyone from an infinitesimally small chance of death from rapid-lead-ingest by giving them cancer? What's not to like....
     
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    If I lived there, and thank God I don't, I would almost be temped to water jet cutouts of thousands of various gun shaped metal pieces and seed them throughout the state.
     
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    Are you suggesting a hat of some sort made from tinfoil?
     
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    Just wrap a 6 inch sub in foil and have them pick you up for concealed carry of a lunch:neener:
     
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    more fun to tape a gun shaped piece of foil to your back at around waist level
     
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    Don't forget to sign the Daily News Assaut Weapons Ban, clearly advertised under the article.

    I wonder where the loyalties of the Daily News lie? I'm betting they'd scream bloody murder if anybody offered any restrictions on the First Amendment...

    :fire:


    I'm wondering what stand organizations like that ACLU would take on something like this, which would be collecting evidence without probable cause in the circumstances listed in the article?
     
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    I'm not discounting the civil liberties issues, but I also don't see how this is actually going to replace a Terry stop from an officer safety perspective.
     
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    Now wait just a second... why is this necessary?
    The legal gun owners would only carry legally so you can already assume that they are potentially armed but not harmful.
    And the criminals, well isn't it illegal for them to carry anyhow? Surely they are complying with the law and not carrying illegally. To use this technology to search for illegally carried guns would admit that there are illegally carried guns.
     
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    The Supreme Court ruled against using thermal imaging without a warrant. The basis behind that was that it didn't enhance natural senses. I would hope this would be the same.
     
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    From what I recall from the last time I was in NY (for an unavoidable funeral) they might
    want to increase the sensitivity of this to include any coins so they can extract
    every last bit of jingle from your pockets before you flee their state!
     
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    Does this crime fighting machine cause cancer? It's a small price to pay for absolute safety, and I'm probably going to be flagged a dissident for asking, but I'm curious what sort of thing they might be beaming at people that can see metal under their clothes.
     
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    That is upto those firms, but I agree , with today's computer interaction, an investment house can be anywhere. They will save millions in taxes alone
     
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    Short answer: No

    Long answer: Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    The scanner doesn't beam anything, it acts as a receiver for electromagnetic radiation your body gives off. Think of it as analogous to an infrared sensor.
     
  23. gym

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    Pat downs don't always work, I can atest to that personally.
     
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    We just had a 5 year old suspended for assualt with a bubble gun. You would likely end up in jail and have to prove your cutout wasn't a new style assualt clip device machine gun. (shooting 500 thought waves a minute)
     
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    I guess it would cost too much to build a tall fence around NYC and pour it full of concrete.
     
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