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Toivo, I like that shirt! It's hella funny!
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Funny? Someone once said that this is the generation that thinks everything is funny.

I found the message to be sobering.
 
btg3 said:
Funny? Someone once said that this is the generation that thinks everything is funny.

I found the message to be sobering.
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Sobering because of the gun "control" implications.

Sad because of the genocide of Native Americans.
 
Speaking of immigration...... I live adjacent to an Indian rez and the other day I saw a bumper sticker "Illegal immigration began in 1492". Says a lot.

I see the tee shirt all the time here in New Mexico. Lots of Indians as well as Anglos wear it.

Historically I suppose both are correct, depending on one's point of vew.
 
Some news outlets are saying it's offensive to Native Americans.
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Until we hear Native Americans speaking out saying they're offended by it, I wouldn't put much stock in it.

I'm native American and I am not at all offended.
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Sounds like no offense is being taken.
And why should it be. If my people were screwed over by the government and that government was trying the same thing with others, I would think I would gladly allow myself to be used as an example of how to not let history repeat itself.
 
I don't think it should be offensive to Native Americans, but it probably is offensive to PCs who pretend to care about Native Americans.
 
As someone with a little Blackfoot up in the family tree, I am offended that anybody could keep a straight face while saying they were offended by that billboard.
 
Seems a little hypocritial given how many of us complained about Obama using the victim's families of mass shootings for political purposes.

Also, it's laughable how many people say "i'm part indian so me not finding it offensive means the sign is fine". Being 1/36th native american, as just about every white american claims to be, does not put one in touch with native american views, perspectives or experiences.
 
Being 1/36th native american, as just about every white american claims to be, does not put one in touch with native american views, perspectives or experiences.
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That cuts both ways, doesn't it?
 
JustinJ said:
Seems a little hypocritial given how many of us complained about Obama using the victim's families of mass shootings for political purposes.

Also, it's laughable how many people say "i'm part indian so me not finding it offensive means the sign is fine". Being 1/36th native american, as just about every white american claims to be, does not put one in touch with native american views, perspectives or experiences.
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a warning from history is a little different than exploiting grieving families to get your pet project passed
 
I think that it is offensive to revisionists.

I also have American Indian ancestry in me and find only truth in the meaning.

To the government I say "No thanks. I'll take care of myself"
 
Justin, how 'bout this...

As a middle aged (mostly) white guy that earns his own way in life, I think the billboard is appropriate and effective in presenting a stark and horrific truth regarding the reality of gun control in this country's not too distant past.

Me, offended? Not even a little bit.
 
JustinJ said:
Seems a little hypocritial given how many of us complained about Obama using the victim's families of mass shootings for political purposes.

Also, it's laughable how many people say "i'm part indian so me not finding it offensive means the sign is fine". Being 1/36th native american, as just about every white american claims to be, does not put one in touch with native american views, perspectives or experiences.
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Arguing for the sake of arguing....? The title of the thread is "Offensive billboard?" The question is being answered, even white man opinions are relevant. At what percentage of native blood does one have a dog in this fight? I know natives that are just as capitalist as any white man and uncaring of native issues, and white men who are rabid defenders of native treaty rights.

I am a whitey white white man, and I work for an isolated fishing tribe in the contiguous U.S., in which the members are predominantly either full blooded, or close to it. Membership in the tribe requires 1/4 tribal blood.
I have NEVER had a tribal member tell me about the benefits of continued government intrusion and loss of personal freedoms.

100%, each and every tribal member I have talked to about firearms and their heritage in general has voiced sentiments that are echoed by this billboard.

This is a tribe that is fighting through the court systems on a national level to regain treaty rights explicitly outlined and negotiated for in their treaty, which are still being denied for no reason other than objections by special interest groups...by people making judgments devoid of information, who would prefer to ignore signed legal documents.... much like anti-gun advocates.


For all we know, the person responsible for the billboard is Native.

If you really want to point an anti gun advocate in the right direction as far as the repercussions of government intrusion and the possibility of it happening to them, have them talk to a Native elder from the right area. Many of them can still personally remember forced integration, being beaten for speaking their native language, being forcibly taken from their homes and put into white schools where they were abused....
The tribe I work for was one of the last to sign treaties, and I have spoken with elders who's fathers were playing around their grandfathers ankles while their grandfathers were signing.
 
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The only people who would be "offended" by that are people that aren't somehow making a dollar or two off the use of it.
 
The only reason it was found to be offensive is because it is effective and to the point.

As someone with some injun blood, I find offense that someone got their panties in a bunch over over it.
 
My rediculously left-wing step-son (good kid, likes to shoot) had a bumper sticker on his now defuct car left over from the Bush Administration and the Patriot Act stuff that was very similar. Something to the effect of "Trust your government? Ask an Indian just how that worked out!".

So what's good for the goose should be good for gander I guess. Personally, I think all Americans should be offended by what our forefathers did to the indiginous people of this continent.
 
toivo said:
Hadn't seen that one before, but I'd seen this one:

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(image from legendsofamerica.com)
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I have a homeland security T-shirt like the one pictured, bought it from an American Indian shop in Tombstone.

The hypocritical "outrage" regarding the billboard is truly astounding. I'm carded, I refer to it as my apartheid card because the government is the entity that determines who is "really" an Indian. In the 1950s tens of thousands of Indians awakened to the news that the US Gov't no longer considered them as Indians.

Yeah, trust the government, NOT! :)
 
I have a few drops of Native American blood (Iroquois) and I am not offended by the billboard. Wish these would pop up in my home state (NY) to remind what the SAFE act is a baby step towards.

In my experience liberals will get offended over anything for someone else. Whether the group they are offended for is really offended or not.
 
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