One Semi-Auto for CC and Home Defense?
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meanmrmustard
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There's alot folks digging compact CZs for both roles.
Nice to see!
Nice to see!
This is what I essentially do...all guns are locked unloaded in the safe and the only loaded one is on my body 24/7 (okay, next to me at night).
It often changes from day to day at my whim or need, but to meet this post and select one to keep ready at all times, I would select my Springfield XDs in .45 ACP.
Easy to carry, enough for serious duty, solid performer.
It often changes from day to day at my whim or need, but to meet this post and select one to keep ready at all times, I would select my Springfield XDs in .45 ACP.
Easy to carry, enough for serious duty, solid performer.
MedWheeler
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My EDC is a Kel-Tec PF9, and it does assume the role of "first-up" home defense weapon as well simply because it is always within arm's reach (either on my hip, or next to the bed.)
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If you are not interested in a CZ that's cool,But do not, and as a Public Service Warning I repeat do not pick one up in your hands. Strange things have been known to happen to peoples minds and wallets when once handled, and there is no cure.
If you are not interested in a CZ that's cool,But do not, and as a Public Service Warning I repeat do not pick one up in your hands. Strange things have been known to happen to peoples minds and wallets when once handled, and there is no cure.
Jim PHL
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S+W 3913 (or 3953 DAO). I always say it's big and heavy enough for fun on the range and small and light enough for comfortable carry.
M&P9c is a very close second for me. Feels a little chunkier IWB but still carries nicely, fits the same description above of "big enough/small enough" for both uses and also has the option another poster mentioned of using full-size, 17-rd mags with their "X-Grip" adapter.
M&P9c is a very close second for me. Feels a little chunkier IWB but still carries nicely, fits the same description above of "big enough/small enough" for both uses and also has the option another poster mentioned of using full-size, 17-rd mags with their "X-Grip" adapter.
Madcap_Magician
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I would do either a grip-chopped 9mm like the Glock 17 cut to Glock 19 grip length, or the M&P 9 cut to compact grip length, or a lightweight commander-style 1911 in 9mm.
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To OP, do you mind if I ask why you want one gun for both roles?
I've made the mistake of buying one gun to fit two roles in hopes of saving money but in the end, I ended up unsatisfied with the degree of compromise for each role and spending more money than if I would have just started with the one-role-one-gun approach. Something to consider if you're looking for one gun just to save money.
I've made the mistake of buying one gun to fit two roles in hopes of saving money but in the end, I ended up unsatisfied with the degree of compromise for each role and spending more money than if I would have just started with the one-role-one-gun approach. Something to consider if you're looking for one gun just to save money.
Glock 30 .45acp.
2nd choice: Glock 26 9mm
These are my primary and alternate CCW guns, and I shoot them both regularly. They are both very accurate, moderate recoil, and powerful enough when loaded properly.
If you're going to use a handgun for HD, it makes sense to use your carry gun.
2nd choice: Glock 26 9mm
These are my primary and alternate CCW guns, and I shoot them both regularly. They are both very accurate, moderate recoil, and powerful enough when loaded properly.
If you're going to use a handgun for HD, it makes sense to use your carry gun.
I like a full-sized, all-steel 1911 for the HD role, which works quite well much of the time for CC. This does not mean I believe in one handgun for all circumstances, just that the 1911 is really good for HD, and generally easy enough to conceal. I like the .45 ACP's comparatively mild flash and blast for indoor and low-light environments, though much of the muzzle flash problem has actually been mitigated in recent years, with flash-retardant in the powder of premium defensive/duty loads of cartridges previously known to have bright flash.
Out in the open, I don't mind harsher muzzle blast so much, and can use it to my advantage, adding a bit of shock and awe directed toward an opponent, who will get a much worse dose than I will, being behind the gun, and being not only ready for it, but having trained to tolerate it.
Another reason I like the 1911, is that its grip frame is a nice fit for my large hands, but is narrow enough so my comparatively short-to-medium thumbs and fingers can securely grasp the weapon, and work the controls. I cannot credit the original author of the term, having long forgotten, but I like to use "handsgun" to refer to wide-body pistols with double-column magazines. A handsgun may be OK in the HD role, but I would rather carry and conceal a handgun.
Some folks advocate HD guns that any responsible person in the household can handle and shoot. While I do not disagree with that idea, I see the "household" guns as more like HER guns, which I might use as a back-up plan. Fortunately, we both like medium-frame .357 sixguns.
FWIW, I carry a personally-owned P229R .40 duty pistol at work; I have several authorized choices, all double-column .40 handsguns, but I take my cased 1911 to work with me. (It is on my qual list as an authorized "back-up" pistol.) When out and about on my own time, I tend to carry the 1911 as "primary." I love my .357 revolvers; at least one SP101 snubby is on my person virtually all the time I am not in bed. I may well carry a larger .357 rather than the 1911 when I feel like it, and may carry more than one .357 at a time. I have gone through several "one gun" phases in nearly 30 years of carrying, but am back to believing there is nothing wrong with multiple guns, if one exercises due diligence in maintaining a reasonable skill level with each platform.
Out in the open, I don't mind harsher muzzle blast so much, and can use it to my advantage, adding a bit of shock and awe directed toward an opponent, who will get a much worse dose than I will, being behind the gun, and being not only ready for it, but having trained to tolerate it.
Another reason I like the 1911, is that its grip frame is a nice fit for my large hands, but is narrow enough so my comparatively short-to-medium thumbs and fingers can securely grasp the weapon, and work the controls. I cannot credit the original author of the term, having long forgotten, but I like to use "handsgun" to refer to wide-body pistols with double-column magazines. A handsgun may be OK in the HD role, but I would rather carry and conceal a handgun.
Some folks advocate HD guns that any responsible person in the household can handle and shoot. While I do not disagree with that idea, I see the "household" guns as more like HER guns, which I might use as a back-up plan. Fortunately, we both like medium-frame .357 sixguns.
FWIW, I carry a personally-owned P229R .40 duty pistol at work; I have several authorized choices, all double-column .40 handsguns, but I take my cased 1911 to work with me. (It is on my qual list as an authorized "back-up" pistol.) When out and about on my own time, I tend to carry the 1911 as "primary." I love my .357 revolvers; at least one SP101 snubby is on my person virtually all the time I am not in bed. I may well carry a larger .357 rather than the 1911 when I feel like it, and may carry more than one .357 at a time. I have gone through several "one gun" phases in nearly 30 years of carrying, but am back to believing there is nothing wrong with multiple guns, if one exercises due diligence in maintaining a reasonable skill level with each platform.
guys,
i have several pistols, both revolvers and semi-autos. i have a loaded pistol stashed in almost every room in my house. i live far out in the country and the law is 20 minutes away at best.
my reasoning for asking about the dual-duty pistol is just for the sake of simplification. one pistol for everything having to do with self defense.
i don't have a 1911 (although i carried one in the army for 26 years), and am hesitant about the 1911 as a carry pistol due to size/weight.
i've looked briefly at the xd's, and liked what i held. currently i carry a ruger lcp in my pants pocket 27/7, but want something with more punch, thus my original question.
thanks again for any suggestions.
i have several pistols, both revolvers and semi-autos. i have a loaded pistol stashed in almost every room in my house. i live far out in the country and the law is 20 minutes away at best.
my reasoning for asking about the dual-duty pistol is just for the sake of simplification. one pistol for everything having to do with self defense.
i don't have a 1911 (although i carried one in the army for 26 years), and am hesitant about the 1911 as a carry pistol due to size/weight.
i've looked briefly at the xd's, and liked what i held. currently i carry a ruger lcp in my pants pocket 27/7, but want something with more punch, thus my original question.
thanks again for any suggestions.
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Kahr single stack 9X19. Either the K-9 or the P-9.
We, the family, have other options. Those two cover all the bases.
salty
We, the family, have other options. Those two cover all the bases.
salty
oneounceload
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Glock G26 works well for CC. For HD, you can use G19, G17, or G18 mags when on HD duty
dirtengineer
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G19 or G23.
I just purchased a 1911 for the purposes you describe but that decision was born out of personal ergonomic preference and concealability. I had a Springfield XD that I adored but I sold it off because it was chubby and difficult for me to conceal well being small-framed. 1911s are slimmer and I find even the larger ones easier to conceal.
If people who are unfamiliar with firearms reside in the home, an auto with a decock lever wouldn't be such a bad idea. Sig is selling their duty-size SP2022 in 9mm and .40, which in my opinion at just under 500 nib seems to be one of the best deals running on an affordable, solid do-it-all semi-auto. The polymer frame makes it light enough to CCW and has an integrated rail for mounting a flashlight and/or laser for HD. I handled and seriously considered purchasing one and to be honest I probably would have saved the money I spent on the 1911 and bought one if the LGS had one in .40. Nothing at all against the 9mm, but if I'm going to carry something outside of the sub-compact size range I prefer a larger caliber. The .40 also is readily convertible to .357sig with the change of a barrel.
Good luck on your decision.
edit; if you're looking for smaller Sig makes the P938 in 9mm. Small, concealable and packs quite a punch for such a small auto. Just a suggestion.
If people who are unfamiliar with firearms reside in the home, an auto with a decock lever wouldn't be such a bad idea. Sig is selling their duty-size SP2022 in 9mm and .40, which in my opinion at just under 500 nib seems to be one of the best deals running on an affordable, solid do-it-all semi-auto. The polymer frame makes it light enough to CCW and has an integrated rail for mounting a flashlight and/or laser for HD. I handled and seriously considered purchasing one and to be honest I probably would have saved the money I spent on the 1911 and bought one if the LGS had one in .40. Nothing at all against the 9mm, but if I'm going to carry something outside of the sub-compact size range I prefer a larger caliber. The .40 also is readily convertible to .357sig with the change of a barrel.
Good luck on your decision.
edit; if you're looking for smaller Sig makes the P938 in 9mm. Small, concealable and packs quite a punch for such a small auto. Just a suggestion.
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1911 or a BHP
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My XD45C has been my daily concealed carry and home defense primary weapon for several years. I'm of the mindset that I'm better off to train hard with a single handgun and get *really* good with it than to switch around my carry and have to adapt to various guns/sights/controls/recoil/etc. To that effect, with more than 10k rounds through this pistol, I'll say that I'm sufficiently proficient with it and leave it at that. My choice to stick with the same carry weapon all the time did not directly effect my choice of a handgun for home defense over a long gun. It did make it easy to decide which pistol to keep under my pillow. 
A little rant here: I don't get the posts I see in various threads (including this one) where people say "I can only pocket carry a mouse gun! I can't concealed carry a ______." Unless they have some unusual physical handicap *anyone* can concealed carry a bulky compact or even full sized handgun if they want to. It's not that difficult or uncomfortable and both get easier/better the more you carry. I think a lot of people are just plain lazy and use the word "can't" to make themselves feel better about being marginally prepared. Get a real gun and keep it close no matter where you are. /rant
A little rant here: I don't get the posts I see in various threads (including this one) where people say "I can only pocket carry a mouse gun! I can't concealed carry a ______." Unless they have some unusual physical handicap *anyone* can concealed carry a bulky compact or even full sized handgun if they want to. It's not that difficult or uncomfortable and both get easier/better the more you carry. I think a lot of people are just plain lazy and use the word "can't" to make themselves feel better about being marginally prepared. Get a real gun and keep it close no matter where you are. /rant
geerlingguy
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I chose the Ruger SR9c for this exact reason. With the SR9 magazine and adapter for the c, the gun shoots like a full-size pistol, and allows a full three finger grip. Most other compact carry guns don't have as nice a grip, even in comparison the c's standard magazine.
Plus, the ability to use a 17-rd magazine means less reloading time when practicing at a range.
Plus, the ability to use a 17-rd magazine means less reloading time when practicing at a range.
momano
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My choice would be the S&W M&P9c. I traded away my Glock 26 to buy a second M&P9c. It is sized between the g26 and g19; magazine holds 12, and fits my hand much better. Good luck in your decision~
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I carry a full size 1911 at home and out around town.
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