Open carry, if its legal for you...

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Aran
I understand what you say but I am not a bigot.
The Libs are stealing our rights everyday. I wish I could carry without being stopped and searched but in this administration we are dog meat. I don't see any reason to fuel them.
Write your congressmen, join the NRA,
 
From the County of Chester Pa.
2."Overt and unnecessary display of your firearm can cause adverse reaction by fellow citizens. Do not create a situation , which could result in the revocation of you permit."
This is from the sheriff of Chester Co. Pa.
If they want to they can take you permit anytime they want to.
 
Thank you for the explanation.. I now realize it is all in where you live, each state seems to call it something different. So if you are on these types of chat boards, everyone calls it something else. In my Sunny state of Florida we call it a Concealed Weapons License. Not a permit, that is something that you get when your are learning to drive !! If you are going to carry here, you need a license to carry a Weapon, and that can be anything that can cause deadly force.. Knife, baseball bat with nails..or Handgun..!!
 
banek, I'm sorry, but in addition to being completely off the wall and wrong, you're detrimental to my rights. Please leave my state.

Thanks in advance.
 
SigP229R said:
w It's legal in N.C. don't even need a permit as long as you can legally buy...

Yes, you're correct, I don't need a CHP to legally OC in NC. I apologize if I was unclear about that in my previous post.

Les
 
I've been in this state for all my life and have no intention of leaving because someone has a different view than mine. I completely agree with WRS840 in post 45 that I do not want to push my rights into anyone's face. I don't like it when the Libs do it to me and I am not going to do it to anyone else.
BANEK
 
^^^^ Exercising a "right" also does not preclude exercising prudent and thoughtful discretion...

Is this reasonable to you in any way?


Once again, not meaning to be "in your face"...

(I'm just enjoying the debate.)

Les
 
i live in new mexico and travel to arizona thank god i still live in states that allow and trust its citizens to carry and defend themselves . when a cop ask me why i carry i ask him why do you? remember that great danger lies in the notion that we can reason with evil.....
 
I live in KY & have had a CDW permit for over 10 years. I never used to carry open.. Always found myself checking my gun & making sure it was "hidden" ... I really did not know open carry was legal until the past year. Since it's legal I decided to start open carrying more frequently.

I tell you the first time I did was a strange feeling walking around w/ a gun not hidden.. But it was pretty comfortable & I really did not get any strange looks, in fact I think most people are oblivious to others & their surroundings & did not even notice. Now I find myself open carrying more & more & find it much more comfortable.

So far no one has ever asked me anything about carrying a gun so I'll have to cross that bridge when I come to it.

All I can say is if you can legally open carry you should consider it. You might find it more comfortable & convenient. I know I do.

Twin
 
I started this thread and I don't remember saying anyhting about making a statement. I said I intend to exercise my right.

My decision is mine and if I get hassled because I am doing something that is perfectly legal, I will deal with those circumstances as they arise. I never said I was going to be walking around spinning my gun ala the old west. I'm not sure how anyone can deduce that by doing something legal, I am pushing my rights in anyone's face.:confused:

Opinions about the drawbacks of open carry are just that. The choices made whether to open carry or not are also that. Your choice. Chances are I'm not going to walk around the local mall OC. I'm not going to open carry any where that it is not legal. When I am going about the normal routine of my day (I don't OC at work), I intend to OC. It's easier, more convienent and it's legal. Now if that offends someone's mother that's not really my problem. I simply say..."Don't worry maam, I'm one of the good guys." and go on about my business.

For those that think it can do more harm than good, you need to get over yourselves. Remember, it is legal in the state in which I reside.
 
I carry openly now, have on and off for a few years.

I have nothing to hide.

The "tactically unsound" arguments and its ilk can pretty much go jump off a bridge - it's an urban myth at this point with nothing to back it up.

If you don't want to open carry, don't. If you're not comfortable, don't.

But for the love of all that's honest and holy, don't mislead your fellow gun owners without being able to cite specific examples of random, crimes on the street have been targeted at those openly carrying a firearm as civilians.

I've come to look at open carry in a different light in recent years - and after noticing that the weapon is just not noticed by the passerby in any quantity.
 
Additionally, surprise is an OFFENSIVE tactic, not a DEFENSIVE one.

If you try to use surprise in a defense situation, you're likely going to spook whoever is attacking into launching their offensive early, and if they're holding a gun, that means BANG, goodbye.
 
2."Overt and unnecessary display of your firearm can cause adverse reaction by fellow citizens. Do not create a situation , which could result in the revocation of you permit."

I'm pretty sure that is an opinion by the sheriff's department, not state law. Probably should be exposed and challenged, not to mention clarified.

Anyone care to call the department and get this thing worked out so 'banek' can understand things better?:scrutiny:
 
My firearms instructor cautioned against open carry in TN. You all can do whatever is legal in your state. I'd stick with concealed if I carry in an urban area. Out in the woods, I'll open carry because I usually carry a larger gun. I also sometimes like to carry a big knife in the woods cause it's fun. Not a good idea in the city.
 
"Open Carry" is both a Constitutional Right and a legal activity in the State of Ohio.

I exercise my Right to "OC" quite frequently and have never had a problem in the 25 years that I've done so.

Not a big deal.:)
 
as i said i oc on my property and in the past year the most grief i have recieved from a LEO is.... (are you ready for this...) his glock and 2 clips allow him more rounds than my 357 and my speed loader.... so i told him i didnt need that many shots to hit my target.... but that is another topic.... lmfao but he still stops in to say hi now and then if i am outside open carrying in the yard....
 
I'm pretty sure that is an opinion by the sheriff's department, not state law. Probably should be exposed and challenged, not to mention clarified.

Anyone care to call the department and get this thing worked out so 'banek' can understand things better?

It is. And it's something that's being worked on over time. Check out PAFOA.org's forums for any info you might want on PA firearms laws.
 
I carry openly now, have on and off for a few years.

I have nothing to hide.

The "tactically unsound" arguments and its ilk can pretty much go jump off a bridge - it's an urban myth at this point with nothing to back it up.

If you don't want to open carry, don't. If you're not comfortable, don't.

But for the love of all that's honest and holy, don't mislead your fellow gun owners without being able to cite specific examples of random, crimes on the street have been targeted at those openly carrying a firearm as civilians.

I've come to look at open carry in a different light in recent years - and after noticing that the weapon is just not noticed by the passerby in any quantity.

Thank you! There's a good article written that debunks all the common myths. I'll try and find it to post a link.

The thing I find interesting is those that are most against OC for one reason or another, have never done it. And then, they go about discouraging others as if they had some horrible experience because of it.

I say don't knock it til you try it. I did, and now I OC almost exclusively.
 
In PA there is no law that specifically allows or disallows open carry but there is one law that restricts open carry in "cities of the first class" (over a million people). Philadelphia is the only first class city in PA. You must have a LTCF in order to OC or CC in Philadlephia.

Other than that, since there is no other law restricting open carry, it is legal, without a license, to OC in the entire state. You must have a LTCF to CC anywhere in the state, and you must have a LTCF to carry in your car.

Counties can not pass their own gun laws. PA has a preemption clause in its state constitution that prohibits gun or ammo laws being passed locally regardless of what a local sheriff may say.

But just because its legal to OC does not mean you won't be harassed or that the catch-all "disturbing the peace" won't be used against you.
 
If I lived in an area where it was legal to OC and CC I would do so appropriately. Even though we have freedom of speech, we don't go saying anything and everything we can get away with just because we can. To me, carrying appropriately is the best way. If' I'm in the country where it is common and I might need to, I would not think twice about OC. In the big city however, I would carry concealed - for two reasons. First, to have the advantage on the BG since he would not know if I am or not, and second so that I would not get unknowing people upset if they saw me carrying when i didn't have to. And the benefit of that is that I don't get hassled by every LEO with a chip on his shoulder about civilians with guns, wasting his and my time.

Just my opinion, for what it is worth.
 
Think about this scenario. Who do you think a gun toting bank robber is going to take out first, a teller or patron or maybe the armed guard walking around the lobby. Surprise is usually the best tact. IMHO.
 
A bank robber that sees me in the bank open carrying is much more likely to rethink his robbery plans than he is to draw on and try to shoot me. Come on people get real here.
 
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