Origin of the 7-Round Magazine Limit?

[k_dawg]

Actually, 7 is the average result of 2d6.

Not when you include the +2 for my Hard Crome and Ivory grips!

 

[22-rimfire]

Unless Glock makes a NY 7-round mag, they are out of luck.

I believe the Glock 10-round mags will be legal as long as you only load them with seven rounds. However, there is a small item about a gun capable of accepting high capacity magazines as technically you can by 30 or 32 round magazines that will fit into a Glock pistol.

 

[thump_rrr]

The .22 is exempt from the 7 round limit.
By .22 I'm talking rimfire and not .222 or .223.

 

[JHenry]

im betting they made it 7 to exclude one of americas most popular rifles the m1 garand

 

[thump_rrr]

No because the Garand is already an assault weapon under the new legislation since it has a bayonet lug.
Any 1 device now makes it an assault weapon in NY.
Also NY State law permits magazines up to 10 rounds to be used as long as they are not loaded to more than 7 rounds.
That is pure genius right there.

The only thing I didn't see mentioned is if it is legal to permanently pin an existing magazine to 7 rounds as we pin our semi auto rifle magazines to 5 rounds up here.

 

[mgmorden]

I believe the Glock 10-round mags will be legal as long as you only load them with seven rounds. However, there is a small item about a gun capable of accepting high capacity magazines as technically you can by 30 or 32 round magazines that will fit into a Glock pistol.

Well, not only that, but apparently the wording on the legislation apparently may ban the Glock 17 (if not more models).

One of the things that apparently is in there is that any weapon is illegal if it is a semi-auto version of a full-auto weapon. The Glock 17 is identical to a Glock 18 except for the full-auto capability.

As noted by their lack of an exemption for law-enforcement to use magazines greater than 7 rounds, the whole bill was poorly thought out.

 

[22-rimfire]

The NY law is a classic example of politicians rushing the passage of legislation to take advantage of a social situation. I think the NY bill may in fact be unconstitutional.

I didn't see any exemption to rimfire rifles or handguns. It was in the '94 AWB, but that doesn't seem to matter as this is a new law.

 

[junyo]

Question: am I correct in believing that a Cali compliant stock and a plain barrel plus owning a .458 SOCOM upper and a bunch of distinctly marked 7 round .458 SOCOM magazines would make a completely legal NYS "assault weapon"?

 

[Trent]

junyo - no, the source magazine for 458 SOCOM is a 30 round STANAG magazine.

It can still function as a 30 round magazine for .223, even if it can double as a 458 10 round magazine.

(Although it'd be interesting to see an argument in court, if you did not possess a 223 upper, you might have a defense... maybe).

 

[thump_rrr]

Question: am I correct in believing that a Cali compliant stock and a plain barrel plus owning a .458 SOCOM upper and a bunch of distinctly marked 7 round .458 SOCOM magazines would make a completely legal NYS "assault weapon"?

A pistol grip and a detachable magazine makes it an assault rifle so no joy.