Origin of the 7-Round Magazine Limit?

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It's clear to me that by limiting magazine capacity to seven rounds all but the micro 9mm's as well as the pocket 380's and 32's semi auto's they have fixed things delibertly where the Glocks,Siggs,XD's,etc. will have to go.
These people crafting this knew damn good and well exactly what they were doing and rammed this through at break neck speed so it could not be debated and was done before the people would find out what these Democrats have foisted upon the New York gun owning people.
You could not melt me down and pour me in that wretched state!!!
 
New York taxes are about to go way up. Just where are they going to house all these new convicted felons? Oh yeah, they are going to commute the sentence so they just become a felon so the state can take all their guns.....chris3
 
During the run up to this railroa....er, vote, there was some discussion as to the impact on employment in and around Ilion, NY, where Remington makes their R-1/1911 clone. I suspect that's where the "7 rounds" comes from.
 
If they went below 7, they would force semi-autos to have a lower capacity than many revolvers like the 8-round .357mag.

These guys often tout their acceptance of handguns like revolvers for self defense and telling the public that they can only carry 8 rounds if it is in a revolver would be a hard sell.
 
The standard 1911 mag has been 8 rounds for years now. What about 8 shot (or more) revolvers?
 
jdh said:
The standard 1911 mag has been 8 rounds for years now. What about 8 shot (or more) revolvers?
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I want to know how does one in the pipe and seven in the mag fall. I mean when chambered it is not loaded in the mag any more.
 
HankR said:
I think they picked 7 because it's lower than 10 and they wanted to be able to brag about the "most restrictive" gun laws in the country. This gives freedom-hating legislators in other states the cover to say either:

A) "Let's do seven. New York did it, so it's the new "10"" (in which case companies will tool up to make 7-round mags for just about everything)

B) "We want the toughest law, so lets go w/ 6 (5, 4, 3...)"
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I agree with that.

There's always been talk of limiting capacity below 10 rounds at those Mayors Against Gun Violence meetings so I think this 7 round ban is mostly one-upmanship. Cuomo and Bloomberg want to have bragging rights to the toughest gun law in the nation. Let's see what O'Malley in Maryland comes up with.

I've been wondering what the Democrats were inevitably going to do to kill their political momentum and this latest AWB push looks like it. They'll never learn. In the years to come they'll suffer again with Congress and also the Presidency.
 
So, I have a S&W 627 that holds 8 rounds.
Is a cylinder a feeding device? Not a magazine.
Speed loaders are feeding devices should they be limited to 7 but a cylinder is a mechanical part of the firearm.
 
They are moving incrementally, and didn't think they could get to 5 THIS time.
The eventual target is to get to zero (single shot only, Google California Single Shot Exemption).
 
I would bet money that the fact that one of the largest 1911 manufacturers, Kimber, resides in Yonkers,New York. I am thinking that its possible they had a dog in that fight somewhere, somehow.
 
From the articles I have read you actually are not allowed to keep magazines that are capable of holding more than 7 rounds. Politico said the bill 'allows NY residents 1 year to sell their "high capacity" magazines out of state". Apparently after that anyone caught with a magazine holding more than 7 rounds will be charged with a misdemeanor. That is where some of the confusion lies as it appears they are banning any magazine that can hold more than 7 but the law that they'd trie people under is reliant on rounds being in the magazine.:confused:
 
All you New Yorkers with mag problems could send them to me. We are not playing that game here in the Rockies. Yet...
 
I am unaware of logic being used by gun banners. Logic apparently escapes their superior intellect. :rolleyes:

In the fourth Star Trek movie, as Spock was being reeducated, the computer banks asked him a simple question. Spock was asked how he felt. Being a Vulcan, a species of pure logic, Spock did not understand the question. I submit that when it comes to asking the gun banners what logic they used to come to their conclusions, it is apparent that their answer would be that they do not understand the question. :scrutiny:
 
22-rimfire said:
Has anyone figured this one out yet? 1911 semi auto handgun magazine? 7-round revolver cylinders? Or was it carefully chosen to make unlawful many or most of the existing detachable magazines?

I don't live in NY, but I understand that they just made my Ruger SR-22P or Mark II/III illegal in its form produced at the factory.
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Divide and conquer...don't threaten the legions of 1911 owners and hope that they will stay on the sidelines fat, dumb and happy.
 
Ruger 10/22 magazine

You asked "What about the Ruger 10/22...
MErl said:
Pop the follower off and put a stick in the bottom?
Completely ignore the rule?
Drill & put a pop rivet in?
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I don't think that will work with the rotary 10 round drum/magazine n the Ruger 10/22.
(I could completely wrong. I've never taken one apart.)

Jim
 
In NY, it will be "legal" to only load your 10-round magazine with 7-rounds for all pre-ban 10-round magazines. How they will determine that one is beyond me.
 
They are smart. They know this makes things incredibly difficult for many manufacturers and now they have to re-tool things, redesign things... and there simply are not many 7 round magazines out there for most designs.
 
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