Pack at work? Despite company policy?

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Do you pack at work, even though your company has a policy against it?

If you have a pocket handgun, and there is NO WAY anyone will notice?

Everyone will just think you have a wallet in the front pocket :evil:

Would/do you take the risk of loosing your job over protection 24/7 ?
 
Currently I don't as the policy states that anyone who is caught will be terminated immediately. I am not the only one that doesn't like this and we are working to get it repealed. We are a small company and we are making progress. I am trying to convince them to allow those with CCW licences carry on the premises. I think that it's a liability from accidents concern rather than a trust concern. I was quite surprised how many people I work with have Class A LTCs once I made it know I had one. Hearinf people discussing firearms "around the water cooler" isn't uncommon in the office.

I don't want to cause any ripples in the meantime.
 
No. I could probably get away with it, but I don't bother. Still got the standard pocketknife though; if I'm not in court or on an airplane, that's going to be there regardless.


Heck, where I work is actually significantly nicer/safer than where I live! So I guess it works out.
 
I don't but I keep a Glock in my car. In the SHTF scenario, I've got it and some water to walk myself home.

In a crazed co-worker scenario...I'm polite and a buddy to everyone. No one is going to want to off me in a office full of lawyers. It's like going after the blue gill in a pond full of trophy bass during a fishing contest.:evil:
 
If it was just company policy, I suppose I *might* consider it. However, my office is on fed.gov property patrolled by security guarding, among other things, nuclear waste (and they get to carry H&K P7M13s as sidearms!). It's bothersome not to be able to carry, but not enough for me to risk losing my job and committing what probably constitutes a crime punishable by jailtime.

jm
 
No I would not carry. I rather like having a roof over my head, a car in the driveway, and food on my table. I'm not ready to quit on 'em yet.
 
I know someone quite well that breaks their companies policy on carry daily :scrutiny:

This person works with me at a small office of less than 15 people, 99% of whom are "gun friendly"

It's somewhat of an open secret at my office that this person is the "gun person" but its still better not to advertise of course!
 
I am trying to convince them to allow those with CCW licences carry on the premises.
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Suggest the weapons policy just mirror the state law. The beauty of this is to a non-gun person it will read like concealed weapons aren't allowed. To those in the know, they know CCW is a legal exception. From an insurance standpoint, shouldn't having a policy in 100% concurrence with the law be suffecient? It's deemed safe for the whole state.

When I worked at a hospital, there was anurse with a psycho ex she was afraid of. I'd have carried in her position. All they can do if fire her...nurses are in high demand. A gun can't pay the bills, but a job can't replace your kids either. Can go round and round with these type of statements.
 
I do not carry at work but not because regulations but because there are naturall accidental dangers in the blue collar work industry. I'd hate to frighten the EMP who's trying to save my ass, or wake up 3 days later in the hospital wondering who ended up with my gun.
 
If your gun can pay the bills, then by all means.
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Likewise, will your coworkers take a bullet for you if a disgruntled employee comes in to kill everyone? Will they raise your children, look after your wife, and tend to your funeral should they fail to protect you?

Myself, I see that there are millions of jobs, hundreds of thousands in my line of work but only one me. I can find a new job, I cannot fix bullet holes in my vitals.

Besides, if it's concealed, why does anyone have to know about it? You could wear women's underwear to work everyday, does it mean the whole place has to know about it?
 
My company has a general, copied-from-the-internet policy in place. I carry anyway.

It covers everything from "hate" speech to tardiness.

The only reference to weapons:

"No illegal or unauthorized weapons are permitted on company property."

I figure I own my guns legally, and the state has authorized me to carry them concealed. I know this statement can also be interpretted to mean "authorized by the company," but the wording is vague enough that I beleive I have a good argument.

Additionally, the policy was sent out in email, and HR only requested that each employee read it. I have never signed it, or had to otherwise certify that I will agree with it. PA is an at-will employment state, so a signature isn't required for them to enforce the policy. They can fire me for any reason (or no reason) at any time.

I value my safety more than my job, and will continue to carry, well-concealed, with my mouth shut.
 
nswtx said:
In texas this is a no-no, company policy voids the need for a 30.06 sign
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That is not correct. In Texas the only proper written notification that will result in criminal tresspass is the properly worded 30-06 sign.

The Penal Code does say "Written Notice" but narrowly defines written notice as that properly done sign only. Now, if you are given ORAL notice then you have to leave immediately, but just being written in the employee code book or whatever does not constitute written notice in Texas, at least for criminal tresspass unless the employee book uses the 30.06 language.

My company apparantly has very good lawyers on staff by the way, the 30.06 language is in my employee regulation book, word for word :banghead:

So,in Texas you may carry on the premise of your employer even if it's against company policy if you have a CHL, but they can certainly fire you for it.

PC 30.06

For purposes of this section, a person receives notice
if the owner of the property or someone with apparent authority to
act for the owner provides notice to the person by oral or written
communication.
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(3) "Written communication" means:
(A) a card or other document on which is written
language identical to the following: "Pursuant to Section 30.06, blah blah
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Whenever I've been jokingly asked if I pack at work I just say I believe in "don't ask-don't tell" and that I only carry when I value my life and the lives of those I care about. Until I'm provided with professional bodyguards by whatever job I'm at, it's up to me alone to make sure I get home at the end of the day.

Randy
 
While an employee at a government office in a bad part of Kansas City, Kansas I didn't carry while in the office but left the gun in my car hidden under the dashboard. The gun was on me at all other times. Shooting the bull with some others I was asked if I carried a gun. I replied, laughing, that I was never far away from a gun. The next morning we found the office burglarized, entry made by ramming a vehicle thru the back door. Several desks had been ransacked, but mine was stripped, everything in it had been thrown out on the floor. I immediately had an idea who did it, and sure enough, a few months later, he was terminated for stealing eighteen hundred lousy dollars. And that was a very small fraction of what he made a year.
 
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