Palladan44
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I have many regular handguns chambered in autoloading pistol calibers in 9mm, 45 ACP and 10mm....and plenty of Rifles in your typical rifle calibers.....and didn't really "blur the lines" so to speak until about 3 years ago, where I acquired a CMMG Banshee chambered in 10mm. Ill get back to that in a moment...
For all practical tactical purposes, to me anyways, the AR pistol regardless of barrel length or caliber is still a "long gun". They must be stored or kept in a location to be retrieved if needed, the same as you would a long gun. (However in my state, CCW holders may have a loaded AR pistol in certain places, such as in a vehicle, where a true rifle or shotgun if kept in that condition, it would be in violation of the law)
**This is not a legal discussion FWIW**
That alone intrigued me to get one of these handy tools to pack around if desired.
To me, AR pistols in 5.56 caliber, or AKs in 7.62x39 are, well..... to put it nicely.... not exactly efficient in their use of gunpowder burning since their chamberings were designed in at least 20-22" barrels (Think SKS and Original M-16s)
You cut this length in half or MORE for your AK/AR pistols. The result is muzzle flash, excessive blast, enough noise to make your ears bleed and your teeth rattle, and terminal performance to leave much desired when compared to the Original designs. Sorry I'm ranting, you all know this stuff already....
The 300 AAC Blackout has been many's answer to solve some of the above issues, and really does its job well. It can use many of the plethora of .30 caliber projectiles out there, can use standard AR magazines, shoots sub-sonic extremely well, and or the most part, utilizes a faster burning powder in order to get efficient use out of say 10" barrels. (Did I mention how much I love WW-296?)
For me, I never did go in the direction of the 300 Blackout, and there's a good chance I never will, since this is a very "niche" role in my Arsenal, and I really like to keep things streamlined in my calibers and reloading equipment, etc.
Since I already own 2 -10mm pistols, the Glock 40 MOS and G20 with plenty of ammunition already on hand, with the reloading dies, supplies etc. Once I learned about the CMMG Banshee in 10mm and the fact it accepted Glock Magazines, I was sold instantly.
I enjoy the full powered loads pushing 180gr. bullets of whatever type 1350fps. or more for over 720 ft. lbs of energy. I do not fire maximum potential "nuclear" loads out the CMMG 10mm for the extra 50fps. in velocity it gives, although the gun can do it if needed without worry. The reason I dont, is the unsupported chamber area of this platform will really bulge the brass sidewall near the case head beyond where it can be reloaded, so I dial them back just a bit to where the brass doesn't bulge. If one ever wanted to go sub-sonic with 10mm, there are some 200 and 220gr weight bullet options out there to keep in mind.
To wrap this up....I'm getting double the power of your average 9mm pistol out of a 30 round AR platform that's highly reliable, and shares the same rounds and magazines for some common hand guns (my favorites) that might just tag along with it. I'm not getting the same power as a 300 BLK, but I'll take the compromise for the several advantages it gives, and as far as the power offered from the 10, I could do a helluva' lot worse.
For all practical tactical purposes, to me anyways, the AR pistol regardless of barrel length or caliber is still a "long gun". They must be stored or kept in a location to be retrieved if needed, the same as you would a long gun. (However in my state, CCW holders may have a loaded AR pistol in certain places, such as in a vehicle, where a true rifle or shotgun if kept in that condition, it would be in violation of the law)
**This is not a legal discussion FWIW**
That alone intrigued me to get one of these handy tools to pack around if desired.
To me, AR pistols in 5.56 caliber, or AKs in 7.62x39 are, well..... to put it nicely.... not exactly efficient in their use of gunpowder burning since their chamberings were designed in at least 20-22" barrels (Think SKS and Original M-16s)
You cut this length in half or MORE for your AK/AR pistols. The result is muzzle flash, excessive blast, enough noise to make your ears bleed and your teeth rattle, and terminal performance to leave much desired when compared to the Original designs. Sorry I'm ranting, you all know this stuff already....
The 300 AAC Blackout has been many's answer to solve some of the above issues, and really does its job well. It can use many of the plethora of .30 caliber projectiles out there, can use standard AR magazines, shoots sub-sonic extremely well, and or the most part, utilizes a faster burning powder in order to get efficient use out of say 10" barrels. (Did I mention how much I love WW-296?)
For me, I never did go in the direction of the 300 Blackout, and there's a good chance I never will, since this is a very "niche" role in my Arsenal, and I really like to keep things streamlined in my calibers and reloading equipment, etc.
Since I already own 2 -10mm pistols, the Glock 40 MOS and G20 with plenty of ammunition already on hand, with the reloading dies, supplies etc. Once I learned about the CMMG Banshee in 10mm and the fact it accepted Glock Magazines, I was sold instantly.
I enjoy the full powered loads pushing 180gr. bullets of whatever type 1350fps. or more for over 720 ft. lbs of energy. I do not fire maximum potential "nuclear" loads out the CMMG 10mm for the extra 50fps. in velocity it gives, although the gun can do it if needed without worry. The reason I dont, is the unsupported chamber area of this platform will really bulge the brass sidewall near the case head beyond where it can be reloaded, so I dial them back just a bit to where the brass doesn't bulge. If one ever wanted to go sub-sonic with 10mm, there are some 200 and 220gr weight bullet options out there to keep in mind.
To wrap this up....I'm getting double the power of your average 9mm pistol out of a 30 round AR platform that's highly reliable, and shares the same rounds and magazines for some common hand guns (my favorites) that might just tag along with it. I'm not getting the same power as a 300 BLK, but I'll take the compromise for the several advantages it gives, and as far as the power offered from the 10, I could do a helluva' lot worse.
