Armored farmer
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Does anyone here have one?
Can you give a review?
I like the looks of the maple stock.
Can you give a review?
I like the looks of the maple stock.
Pedersoli Rocky Mountain Hawken
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Capandball reviewed the lower-tier pedersoli Hawken and liked it FWIW. I don't know about the higher-tier Rocky Mountain one.
I have one in .54 with a 1:65" twist. They are great looking guns and they shoot well too! I think it is the best Hawken reproduction productio
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Beautiful rifle!
Thanks so much for taking time to post pics.
I have an older early 80s t/c Hawken. 54 that is Looking tired.
I just have the 'wants' for a new smokepole!
I have been pondering a .45-70 Sharps, but I can't hunt deer in Illinois with it.
I'm also a member of a pretty active m/l club.
Thanks so much for taking time to post pics.
I have an older early 80s t/c Hawken. 54 that is Looking tired.
I just have the 'wants' for a new smokepole!
I have been pondering a .45-70 Sharps, but I can't hunt deer in Illinois with it.
I'm also a member of a pretty active m/l club.
CraigC
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I have/had one. It's a gorgeous rifle and very accurate. It's heavier than the Lyman GPR and the stock cracked on mine at the wrist so it's out of commission.
Absolutely loved mine. Beautiful rifle in every way. Muzzle heavy and shiny maple
wood finish and looked like a piece of art. I worried so much about scratching it that I was almost afraid to use it. I sold it and use my old kit-built .54 GPR now.
Nothing against the Pedersoli but my GPR is more like a rugged tool. More like my old Jeep than a new Land Rover so to speak.
wood finish and looked like a piece of art. I worried so much about scratching it that I was almost afraid to use it. I sold it and use my old kit-built .54 GPR now. Nothing against the Pedersoli but my GPR is more like a rugged tool. More like my old Jeep than a new Land Rover so to speak.
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Thanks. I was wondering how it compares to the GPR. I’ve “built” a couple of those
I've had the TCs, which I never could really call a "Hawken", A couple pretty good ones I built, one with a Douglass, the other a Bill Large barrel, and stupidly sold, and the best of all, a Jonathan Browning Mountain rifle which was darn good. I've seen a Pedersoli and it looked great.
A secret few people know. I got to shoot a real J&S Harken in 1977. A collector friend had gotten one in a deal along with a bakers dozen Pennsylvania rifles. When he showed it to me I said it was the best replica ever. He laughed and told me the story. It had some residue around the nipple and I asked, incredulously, if he'd actually shot it. We went out and shot five shots, me, one, that afternoon. 53 cal, maple, two wedges, patent breech, great condition. Lots more to the story.
I'd love to have another good Hawken and the Pedersoli looks awful good.
A secret few people know. I got to shoot a real J&S Harken in 1977. A collector friend had gotten one in a deal along with a bakers dozen Pennsylvania rifles. When he showed it to me I said it was the best replica ever. He laughed and told me the story. It had some residue around the nipple and I asked, incredulously, if he'd actually shot it. We went out and shot five shots, me, one, that afternoon. 53 cal, maple, two wedges, patent breech, great condition. Lots more to the story.
I'd love to have another good Hawken and the Pedersoli looks awful good.
CraigC
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It's got a bigger barrel profile, even though both mine are .54's. The GPR is a good bit lighter. Rather than trying to fix the Pedersoli, I just got a better lock for my Lyman, just haven't put it in yet. Though I've been hunting with flintlocks the last several years.
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Hmmmm
Interesting observation....
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Are you planning to attend the Alvin York Memorial shoot this year @CraigC ?
My gang is getting older and haven't made plans this year. We pretty much came home with our tails between our legs in 2021 after the total rain out....
It was a flood...
We never fired a shot.
.....but if I had a good reason to point the f150 south....
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Farmer, you deserve a new rifle. I have a TC, but the weird flash channel and breech kind of spook me. I've not fired it enough to judge whether it is reliable or not. Just seems like that long contorted flash channel is begging for a clog.
What I like about the GPR and the Pedersoli is the double wedge pins. I think that really adds to an authentic look, although many original guns had the single barrel wedge.
On weight, one could always send a .54 barrel to Hoyt and have it bored to .58 or larger if he would go larger than .58", that would lighten the gun up quite a bit. But that's just me. If weight is a concern I would go with the GPR. I'm not sure if the slightly better quality of the Pedersoli over the GPR would be real apparent or noticeable. I think they would have to be compared side by side to really see a difference. Perhaps there is no difference!! ??
What I like about the GPR and the Pedersoli is the double wedge pins. I think that really adds to an authentic look, although many original guns had the single barrel wedge.
On weight, one could always send a .54 barrel to Hoyt and have it bored to .58 or larger if he would go larger than .58", that would lighten the gun up quite a bit. But that's just me. If weight is a concern I would go with the GPR. I'm not sure if the slightly better quality of the Pedersoli over the GPR would be real apparent or noticeable. I think they would have to be compared side by side to really see a difference. Perhaps there is no difference!! ??
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I think the main difference is the Pedersoli Rocky Mountain is a lot closer in appearance to a real Hawken than the GPR. The Pedersoli traditional Hawken looks exactly like an Investarms Hawken.
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That is a fine-looking piece . It looks good beside the old steel corn plate.
AntiqueSledMan
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They sure look nice.
When I started shooting front loaders I purchased a Thompson Center Hawken, no complaints.
My brother started with a CVA Mountain Rifle, they looked nice but had no drop on the stock and were a trick to shoulder.
Then he picked up a Lyman GPR, I always thought that looked more like a True Hawken than any other.
Now I'm shooting a Lyman GPH, 1-32" twist and love it. I must add the TC was handed down to my son & it's still in use.
AntiqueSledMan.
When I started shooting front loaders I purchased a Thompson Center Hawken, no complaints.
My brother started with a CVA Mountain Rifle, they looked nice but had no drop on the stock and were a trick to shoulder.
Then he picked up a Lyman GPR, I always thought that looked more like a True Hawken than any other.
Now I'm shooting a Lyman GPH, 1-32" twist and love it. I must add the TC was handed down to my son & it's still in use.
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Pedersoli did a good job on their interpretation of a Hawken. The GPR is close but needs some tweaks to get close. The William Cody Museum in Cody Wyoming has the best collection of Hawkens anywhere. It's definitely worthwhile to visit if one is in the area. Be prepared to spend at least 2 days just for the firearms part. I kinda get tired of the production guns by Traditions and CVA and others calling their stuff a "Hawken" when it's not even close. Most of them have only one thing in common with a real Hawken... they both go bang. Just my opinion that's not worth anything.
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Yeah, I have a CVA Hawken that I built when I was 14 just because it looks like the ones in Jeremiah Johnson (best movie ever). But it really has nothing to do with any historical rifle.
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Maybe...right after Lonesome Dove...
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If you really look at the rifle in Jeremiah Johnson it donr look like a CVA neither.
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I read somewhere awhile back it was an Investarms with a few embellishments.
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was invest arms around at that time? Seems a bit early for them. The problem I had with the movie was you never really got a good look at the rifle. He was carrying what looked like some form of Pennsylvania rifle before acquiring the Hawken, I guess you could look it up on the interweb maybe and see what it is.
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Yeah, you're right... they look more like the Pedersoli "traditional hawken"
http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Jeremiah_Johnson
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I guess not. Investarms was founded in 1975.
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