people at photo lab gave my mom a hard time

[pax]

Some people need to have their man cards permanently confiscated and change their name to Sheila.

Yeah, sure -- because we all know that "female" is a synonym for "bed-wetting idiot" whereas "male" really means "brave gun lover."



pax
(a gun-loving woman who gets really, really annoyed at being equated with idiots and cowards just because she doesn't have dangly bits)

 

[XavierBreath]

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he told my mom that the pictures scared his employee etc.

Some people need to have their man cards permanently confiscated and change their name to Sheila.

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The high road only goes so far .

Amen!

A reminder.......The High Road goes from Alpha to Omega, from page one to the closing of the forum here. If you are unable to stay on the high road here, you will be unable to stay on The High Road. I do not think I can make myself any more clear.

If you feel the need to belittle a segment of gunowners, please visit another forum to do so and preserve your posting privileges here. It will not be tolerated or laughed at here, and that is not negotiable.

 

[4v50 Gary]

You mom should have said that she's having them developed for a photo-journalist. Virtually anybody may assert their a journalist nowadays by being a blogger. Remember the case in the District Court in San Francisco. Some blogger had video tape that could have identified an assailant of a police officer and when he refused to surrender said tape on 1st Amendment grounds, they locked him up for contempt of court?

 

[Green Lantern]

If you and she were just a plain ol' CUSTOMER - you could complain to upper management...

Maybe you can still complain to management? After all, YOU are a customer.

Maybe omitting HOW you heard about them, tell them that you're deeply insulted by these accusations, and you'll NEVER get your film developed there again. NOT locally, call corporate/feedback line/ whatever.

It might at least get the AM chewed out by his boss. Hey, the girls at work got the ventilation fan in the bathroom fixed ONLY after one of them called and complained as a "customer," so it's worth a go.

Second option, the "soft" option - go and meet the "frightened" employee, and make friends with them, and SHOW 'em that being a gun owner does not make you a demon. That might be the best way to go.

 

[bogie]

Xavier, I actually _DO_ think that a "get your gun pix developed" day would be an interesting sort of protest... The high road does take some twists and turns, after all... Too many "gun people" seem anything except polite letter writing as being "over the top" as far as activism. Be interesting to see that if the outfit had enough stuff come through in a day if they'd call the police... Which could, in turn, make the news... (especially if you already had a press release and people to interview lined up...)

But, frankly, after seeing a bunch of the "gun" pictures on stuff like myspace, I'd also have to ask if the guy was photographed waving 'em and and looking all gangsta/all tacticool, and all that... Guys, if you are gonna take pictures that someone else is gonna see, let's PLEASE try to look like RESPONSIBLE adults in 'em? And not a buncha hoodlums or thugs just a twitch away from a killing spree, stalking from cubicle to cubicle with a semi-automatic M-1 carbine...

 

[XavierBreath]

bogie,
I think you misinterpreted post #77.

I'll be more clear. I'm sick and tired of men belittling women on this forum. A man does not require a "man card", nor does he have to own or even desire a firearm to be a man. Owning a firearm is a personal choice and not a testament to one's manhood.

A woman is not necessarily afraid of guns, is rarely cowardly, and there are quite a few women who can smoke the tails of most of the men on this forum at the range. There are women who have picked up a firearm and defended their families and their man against those who would do them harm. There are women defending our nation. The fastest growing segment of firearms ownership in the US is women. It is a shame that so many men actively alienate them both here and off this forum.

I am not going to psychoanalze why a man might hold these beliefs and feel a need to voice them. That is not my place here, although I do hold my opinions. My job is to moderate. Equating being female with being weak, cowardly or afraid of guns is simply evidence that the speaker in question is unfamiliar with the subject, has a poor view of women, and yet seeks to belittle them. I will not tolerate the disparagement of any group of shooters on THR, whether they be women, men, gay, lesbian, black, white, or any other race, gender or nationality.

 

[Green Lantern]

BTW, as has been mentioned, "digital phots STILL have to be printed" - unless you spring for the equipment to do it yourself.

Some stores have kiosks that do your prints instantly - they're GREAT! But they require a password, and the cashier may still check or at least count each print. Or not, there's a receipt that prints out that tells how many prints, IIRC.

I missed the part where you worked in the same chain, I agree that some "preventative PR work" may be in order to nip in problems in the bud, esp. if your own bosses are cut from the same cloth (100% wool if you catch my drift) as the people in your mom's store.

And while I LOVE my digicam, avoiding scrutiny by photo lab blissninnies should NOT be anyone's primary reason for buying one. I'd say that to a gun owner, or anyone ELSE as long as whatever they wanted pics of was legal.

 

[Agouti]

Some people need to have their man cards permanently confiscated and change their name to Sheila.

I think this is a Scrub's reference.

 

[1911RjB]

It is an unfortunate fact that most people in the world are hopelessly stupid. There's nothing you can do but learn to ignore it.

defently agree, you can't change people and yes, Digital camera's are great and with printers as good as they are now a days i don't ever drop my photos to be printed any where.

 

[pax]

I think this is a Scrub's reference.

And, in context, it was used to say that that particular man, the manager, was "acting like a woman," implying that men are by definition pro-guns and pro-self defense whereas women by definition are cowardly and controlling fools. A fallacious, spurious, and offensive notion.

pax

 

[XavierBreath]

Reality is not a sitcom.

Let's get this thread back on track.

 

[sandy4570]

I missed the part where you worked in the same chain, I agree that some "preventative PR work" may be in order to nip in problems in the bud, esp. if your own bosses are cut from the same cloth (100% wool if you catch my drift) as the people in your mom's store.
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Green Lantern
From what I learn about this particular AM is that he is just a jerk not so much of the anti gun and anti self defense , AM in my branch would have handle this more delicately .Any complain I file would be deal "in house " and written off as the case of misunderstanding .
I guess I did not anticipate this kind of ignorant gesture after almost 8 years of taking photo of my firearms and put them in scrap books.

I do have a question for my gun friendly posters here. What is constitue illegal picture that one should not take to the photo lab ? Only two that I know of are child pornograpy and marijuana plant .

 

[CannonFodder]

Well, pictures of you holding a gun and standing over a freshly-ventilated human corpse would probably not go over well.

Just sayin...

 

[langenc]

I wonder how they handle partially clothed women?

 

[Green Lantern]

From what I learn about this particular AM is that he is just a jerk not so much of the anti gun and anti self defense

Interesting, may be helpful if you'd like to see him gone. But you and I both know that it's not a guarantee. It's all about how much money you make the bigwigs, and how well you kiss the right butts...

And upon thinking "what WOULD be an 'illegal' gun photo," apart from the one glaringly obvious example listed...I have a hard time coming up with anything. Well, maybe a home-made machine gun or silencer?

I guess that my original statement stands, unless you REALLY want to stay "under the radar." To people with a fear of guns, obviously, even relatively "harmless looking" photos like yours can make a change of underwear necessary for them...!

 

[bogie]

Methinx that was a bit of sarcasm... At least I hope so... (somewhat backed up by the rest of the post, dude...)

Women scare me. Guys will hesitate before attempting the remove the dangly bits... Girls will just go for it...

But our little psychoses are beside the point.

The point is: The managedrone got his panties in a wad (how's that for a gender neutral comment? - I think I learned it from one of my drill instructors. She was a mean one...) over someone _seeing pictures of boomsticks_. Ohmigawd.

Now, you've got a choice here... You can reinforce the "guns are bad" stereotype, by getting all antsy and back in his/her/it's face, or you can just say "Hey - it's just target shooting - would you like to come out with us sometime?"

 

[Green Lantern]

Now, you've got a choice here... You can reinforce the "guns are bad" stereotype, by getting all antsy and back in his/her/it's face, or you can just say "Hey - it's just target shooting - would you like to come out with us sometime?"

Yes, the more I think about the more I think that "conversion" is the way to go, or at least show him that all gun owners aren't on the edge of "snapping" and "going postal."

But, if that fails, then you might want to exercise your right to complain to management about being "profiled" by the guy...

 

[kermit315]

maybe i missed it. i read the whole thread and might have missed it. is it legal for the to go through other peoples pictures. i mean, i get it if they see something obviously illegal (kiddie porn, etc) by accident and report it, i get that. but since when are they legally allowed to check your photos and make sure they conform to corporate standards?

 

[1911Tuner]

When she went to pick up the photo after her shift the assistant manager pulled her aside and questioned her about who is this picture belong too ? he told my mom that the pictures scared his employee etc.

I can just hear the bleating of sheep in the distance...

 

[Spot77]

Not directly related, but some good info here for all of us to think about before choosing an action or non-action:

http://www.jpfo.org/victimaddiction.htm

 

[pax]

maybe i missed it. i read the whole thread and might have missed it. is it legal for the to go through other peoples pictures. i mean, i get it if they see something obviously illegal (kiddie porn, etc) by accident and report it, i get that. but since when are they legally allowed to check your photos and make sure they conform to corporate standards?

kermit, you explicitly give them that permission when you hand them the film. It's plastered all over the little envelopes you drop the film into, too.

Back a jillion years ago or so, my husband worked in a photo developing lab. One of the other employees had a drawer full of "family pictures" -- other people's families. Mostly pictures of pretty, young girls wearing swim suits and that kind of thing. It was creepy, but not at all illegal, and got him fired when the manager found out. My husband commented later that that guy wasn't the only one with a collection, just the only one stupid enough to keep his collection at work and get caught.

pax

 

[Pigspitter]

I had a teacher call my parents because me and a friend were talking about going to shoot his new Mosin Nagant at the range.

 

[sandy4570]

maybe i missed it. i read the whole thread and might have missed it. is it legal for the to go through other peoples pictures. i mean, i get it if they see something obviously illegal (kiddie porn, etc) by accident and report it, i get that. but since when are they legally allowed to check your photos and make sure they conform to corporate standards?

In my particular area one incident that probably help proliferated photo lab technician go through customers picture was the attempted massacred at De Anza college. Longs photo lab reported to the police after developing a film drop by De Anza college student . The pictures contain numerous propane canister bombing devices and molotov cocktail along with rifles and shotgun. I believe this was only one incident that the massacre was prevented. I was glad that this woman at Longs actually prevent such tragic incident because I was former student of De Anza college . I had conversation with Wolf camera manager after the incident because I developed my film there and she informed me that at Wolf and Ritz camera the technician will look and inspect their customers pictures as their parts of quality control .