PIC: To those who bring their piece into the bathroom :)

[Pylon]

http://www.deviantart.com/view/6600108


I don't know about you guys, but i tend to have my gun with me everywhere i go, which includes bathroom time. Sooo, in honor of this tradition, i thought it would be appropriate to make a picture of this, because i can.

I printed this out to hang up above my toilet so when (at least the guys) we take a #1, we see this picture. Its just a neat picture nobody ever expects to see when doing their business. I like it.

-Pylon

 

[clubsoda22]

gets me thinking, when you're carrying an use a public restroom, what do you do with your gun? I think you'd get a strange reaction if someone saw ,below the stall, your pants at your ankles with your holstered piece and some spare mags. Frankly, i'd prefer to avoid that if i'm carrying on campus in 2 years. Legal, but against the policy.

Sorry to hijack the thread. Nice pic though.

 

[SapperLeader]

Pylon - Love the picture, I too am one that ahs the gun with me all the time. I go a little smaller though, when Im in the house, and usualy just have my s&w 642 jframe.

Clubsoda - when going to the bathroom, I leave my pistol in the holster, and sort of shift the pants over, so it sits between my legs. This leaves it accessable, and yet out of sight to anyone looking under the stall.

 

[boofus]

For some sick reason I thought you were going to show us a gun that fell into the bowl after you were done with business.

 

[martyr]

yeah, i like that picture a lot.

sapperLeader and clubsoda - i'd been wondering about that myself. when i'm using a paddle (not shoulder) holster, i'm in the habit of unholstering and putting the weapon in a furled pantleg, along the outside of my boot; easy, accessable, obscured from casual view (front/side), but doesn't account for empty fobus or spare mags.

 

[444]

I was expecting you to have taken a picture of your pants around your ankles and a holstered gun on your belt.
What a relief.

I take the pistol out of the holster and sit it on the sink. If it is a public stall, I remove the pistol and lay it on top of the toilet paper dispenser.

 

[one45auto]

I too am one that ahs the gun with me all the time. I go a little smaller though, when Im in the house, and usualy just have my s&w 642 jframe.

SapperLeader,

Glad to know that I'm not the only one. My bedroom gun varies, but I always have my 642 with me when I'm about the house - even in the bathroom. (Ex-wife never understood) There's nothing like taking a dump while thumbing through some gun mags and looking over to see the J-frame sitting on the counter beside you - especially when there's an article about the little Smith's. You get that "I've already got one" feeling of pure satisfaction, particularly when you see how the prices have increased since you bought yours.

 

[Pylon]

One45Auto, haha very good discription at setting the scene while taking a number 2

 

[SapperLeader]

one45auto, yeah, I definitly like my 642. I just got some crimson trace laser grips for it, so hopefully I can start hitting things beyond seven yards. So far, its definitly been a shoot to get someone off of me gun. I love it due to its compactness, lightweight and relative power.

 

[Bart Noir]

Bad ammo alert!

Those look like FMJ rounds. Let's pass the hat for this guy, he can't afford hollowpoints.

Bart Noir

 

[Protector]

Isn't the public toilet the Ultimate Bane/Test for CCW carrier? As most of my friends are CCW carriers or LEO's, I have heard more horror stories about the public john than anything else I can remember. The gun or spare mag dropped in the bowl the gun left on the back of the toilet the gun that was slipping to the floor and as the LEO bent over to grab it, he accidentally dropped kick it the length of the crowded restroom


Personally, I remove the gun from whatever type holster I am using, lower pants to knee height and place the gun in the pocket formed by the center of the pants, while gracefully sitting This pulls spare mags, speedloaders, flashlights, etc. in towards the middle, away from the stall edge...and makes it really hard to leave without the gun.


Unless, of course, I'm wearing my Utilikilt. Then everything goes up, instead of down...and the guy in the next stall is really wondering.

 

[faustulus]

I try to choose the stalls that have a baby changing station, pull it down and put the gun there. I have hung it on a coat hanger before as well. Just depends on the bathroom.

 

[Black_Talon]

Unbuckle, drop trou to just above knees, refasten belt, sit down, let 'er rip. You can hold your pants tight "during" and "after" doing your business w/o having to worry about your hardware falling or being seen. Afterwards, unbuckle, pull up pants, refasten everything, double check to make sure all is still concealed and you're on your way....

 

[JohnKSa]

Drop trou as usual, put gun/holster in pants, pull down drawers to cover gun.

Too many stories about guns falling off things onto the floor or into the toilet. The above method keeps it readily accessible, safe from dropping and yet completely hidden from others.

 

[P95Carry]

I jump for joy when I have to ''go public'' .. (which is as rarely as I can manage! ) and find there is a disabled stall .. the big deal ... loadsa space.

I then go for max speed ... and place piece like others .. in the underwear, carefully!! Only once did I try perching it on the paper dispenser .... only a fast reaction that caught it prevented gun damage and possible embarrassment! I am always relieved (oops, pun!) . when I manage to ''escape'' with no one else having come in whilst ''busy'' ...... and sometimes there is more than one reason for that!

Nice pic ... yep ... that is a viable alternative too.

 

[Pylon]

hehe, well i really hope that not too many put their gun on the top of the toilet like i have shown in the picture. I only did that because it looks pretty freaking neat to take a picture that way. I perscribe to the putting gun inside of pants while taking a number 2.

Of course i have never taken a number 2 in public before and i plan on never doing so if i can. So ya....what looks good in the picture may not be a wise lesson learned. hehe

 

[one45auto]

I'm with you, Pylon. The only place I've pinched out a loaf, other than at home, has been where I work. Even so, I doubled up on the seat covers. Public restrooms are just too filthy to even think about it.


By the way, just out of curiosity, where'd you come up with the username? The word pylon immediately brings to mind images of "Land of the Lost" and those crystal matrixes....

Remember those Saturday mornings?

 

[DigMe]

I used to always just go into the handicap stall as someone above suggested. It's just a better situation because I can stick my holstered pistol right between the handicap rail and the wall and personally I feel that if someone decides to kick the door in and rob you (as happened to someone else here in the past) it will be tactically more sound to be further away from the door in that big stall... HOWEVER, recently we had this discussion on another gun board and one of the handicapped members there relayed how many times he's waited in pain for a non-handicapped person to come out of the stall so he could use it. It's lead to some messy situations for him. Anyway...I've never come out of the stall to find a handicapped person waiting to use it but it just made me think twice and now I usually go into the regular stall if it's an option.

brad cook

 

[mtnbkr]

I try to choose the stalls that have a baby changing station, pull it down and put the gun there.

So you're why I can't find a free baby changing station when I need it (for it's intended purpose).

Chris

 

[atek3]

clint smith and others choose 45 FMJ for defense ammo, so can´t be all bad.

atek3

 

[Pylon]

One45Auto

I really didn't think to hard with picking my name. I used to go under the name "Happy Meal" when i played a lot of Quake2, and when Quake 3 rolled around i just picked some random word out of a book and that happened to be Pylon. It was shorter and easier to type i guess


-Pylon!

 

[YammyMonkey]

I just drop trou to above the knees and sit down while holding the holster and mag carrier at about knee level then plant my feet shoulder width apart and splay me knees open, the tension from the mag carrier loop against the belt loop keeps that side of the belt from slipping through the pants loops and the same goes for the holster on the other side. Keeps the gun well above the bottom of the divider and also keeps my pants off those nasty floors .

Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go, uh, practice

 

[mainmech48]

IIRC, the method that "Protector" described used to be refered to as the "Rhodesia Drill". Apparently there was a time when restrooms (especially the public sort) were popular with the local terrs for selecting Targets of Opportunity at their most vulnerable.

While we haven't as yet seen this tactic become popular among the social hyenas here, it's well to remember that those with the predator mindset prefer to select their potential victims when and where they're likely to be least prepared to fight back effectively.

Having one's trousers around his knees in a place where there is the ingrained expectation of privacy, very little manuevering room and next-to-no way observe that a threat is immanent would seem to qualify.

The expression "Being caught with you pants down" didn't become a cliche for no reason.

Personally, I'd rather take the risk of being perceived as "needlessly paranoid" than find myself attending the Grand Opening of "Uncle Mainmech's Worm Ranch" because I went into "Condition White" when I closed the door on that stall.