Picked up 2 guns i inherited from my father.

[CoalCrackerAl]

My brother and i took turns picking. He picked my dads 870 wing master 1st. I took the 760 bdl 30.06 deluxe. I told my brother to take all the other shot guns. He's into shot guns more than i am. His only revolver my brother said to take. I'll be getting his MI Garand too. As soon as my mom finds it. I think the revolver is a Webley. Im going to take it along when i pick up my mini 30. And ask him to verify. I do remember my dad telling me it's a 38 sw. The 22's my mom kept for varmint control.

 

[D.B. Cooper]

It's definitely British. Has the Crown acceptance stamp in front of the cylinder. That one is pretty old. I know the Brits had some revolvers, during WWII, that were 38 SW that they referred to as 38-200. But I thought all of the Webleys were break top designs. (Obviously not an expert on British militaria.)

 

[Miami_JBT]

That's an RIC pattern Webley.

https://unblinkingeye.com/Guns/RIC/ric.html

 

[CoalCrackerAl]

Im going to the revolver along to get an insurance value when i pick up my mini 30. I don't know if the 4 digit number on it is a s/n. Or a MFG code.

 

[nettlle]

The 760 looks like a fun gun to shoot.

 

[CoalCrackerAl]

Yes they are fun i have an 760 30.06 with out the Monti Carlo stock. It will be interesting to compare the 2.

 

[Miami_JBT]

Im going to the revolver along to get an insurance value when i pick up my mini 30. I don't know if the 4 digit number on it is a s/n. Or a MFG code.

The Webley RIC pattern was made for decades and heavily copied by other British and Belgian gunmakers.

 

[CoalCrackerAl]

Mine has no brand name on it. I did a lot of google image search to come up with Webley. I hope my LGS can help me on it tomorrow.

 

[Miami_JBT]

Mine has no brand name on it. I did a lot of google image search to come up with Webley. I hope my LGS can help me on it tomorrow.

Real Webleys are typically marked in the top strap.

 

[CoalCrackerAl]

Big help there. Now i wonder who made mine.

 

[Show Me]

Wonderful awesome 30 06 .
Darn the luck about your dad. Not a good trade. Not at all.
Home made garand loads will be wonderful out of that pump action. I'm sure you'll mention it later.

 

[Miami_JBT]

Big help there. Now i wonder who made mine.

Belgian clone more than likely.

Gun of the Week 58: Belgian Webley copy

 

[Bazoo]

Very nice rifle. I had one some years back, almost identical. I don't remember how it shot or anything, and I wasn't into reloading at the time. Funny how grand loads were mentioned for it, I used to buy surplus 30-06 on EnBloc clips to shoot.

An interesting old revolver too. Those British guns and copies are fascinating.

 

[Demi-human]

It will be interesting to compare the 2.

I really like my set.

I agree with @Show Me , a terrible trade indeed. My condolences for you.
May you smile and remember each time you use that fine rifle.

In addition, “What? No See-Thru rings?!”

 

[Jim Watson]

In addition, “What? No See-Thru rings?!”

Hereabouts that was “look under brackets” preferably holding a “three times nine Redfield.” Extra credit for “TV tube eyepiece,”.

 

[CoalCrackerAl]

Belgian clone more than likely.

Gun of the Week 58: Belgian Webley copy

You hit the nail on the head. Looks like it may shoot an older version .380. I have 38 sw for it. Think it's safe to use it? I looked up pressures in my Lyman reloading book. Low around 10-11000 PSI. My dad never mentioned shooting it. And the box of ammo he had was still full.

 

[CoalCrackerAl]

The scope is a Weaver V9. I discovered the mounts flip to the left. Then you can use the irons. I'll use loads closer to the Garand. Full power .06 loads kill me these days. I found a load with 2400 i like when i want more than the dot powders put out.

 

[Remington1911]

Remington 760 is a very cool rifle, you don't see many pump action center fire rifles anymore. It is just one of those things of the past.

It is also the gun that shot MLK......or more likely not. Some interesting history there as well.

 

[Mauser lover]

Looks like it may shoot an older version .380.

What makes you think this? Not impossible, I suppose, but if “.380” means .380 ACP like a Ruger LCP would shoot, I’m dubious.

 

[CoalCrackerAl]

I saw the 380 reference in the article i read. It's not though. A 380 cartridge falls through the cylinder. My reloading book mentions the 38 sw being used in Webleys.

 

[Miami_JBT]

You hit the nail on the head. Looks like it may shoot an older version .380. I have 38 sw for it. Think it's safe to use it? I looked up pressures in my Lyman reloading book. Low around 10-11000 PSI. My dad never mentioned shooting it. And the box of ammo he had was still full.

Do you know the loading of the ammo your father left behind? Is it factory stuff? When was it made? And more importantly, is it black powder or smokeless? If you really want to be safe, you can dump the powder and reload 'em with black powder or black powder substitute.

But then again, the RIC pattern was sold well into the 1920s. So even then, smokeless was being put through 'em.

Belgium during that era was cottage industry in which the standards were all over the place. Yes, you had some very reputable makers in Belgium that made fantastic guns of amazing quality. But you also have some dregs that scraped the underside of the barrel, let alone the bottom of it. Without really looking at the gun. I personally have no clue and can't give you advice.

 

[Miami_JBT]

What makes you think this? Not impossible, I suppose, but if “.380” means .380 ACP like a Ruger LCP would shoot, I’m dubious.

Europe called .38 caliber revolver cartridges ".380" and there was a bunch of 'em too. The .38 S&W was called by the UK the .380 Revolver MKI and MKII service cartridges.

 

[Miami_JBT]

I saw the 380 reference in the article i read. It's not though. A 380 cartridge falls through the cylinder. My reloading book mentions the 38 sw being used in Webleys.

There's also .380 Bulldog.

Making .380 revolver ammo for an ancient Bulldog pistol | old guns and shooting

Fabricating thin rimmed .380 revolver ammunition for a Bulldog type revolver

plimking.com

 

[Mauser lover]

Europe called .38 caliber revolver cartridges ".380" and there was a bunch of 'em too. The .38 S&W was called by the UK the .380 Revolver MKI and MKII service cartridges.

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Yep. That’s why I asked. It’s not an older version of the current .380 Auto, and is dangerous to try interchanging.

.38 S&W has a rim much thicker than the .380 Rook/etc. cartridges mentioned in that linked article. If your .38 S&W ammo fits, it is LIKELY chambered for a dimensionally equivalent cartridge (probably also called .380-something-something by the Brits). DON’T try it with unknown ammo, DON’T try it with smokeless ammo until you get better info on the manufacturer and date of manufacture.

 

[CoalCrackerAl]

The ammo is Remington. My dad bought it after he got the gun. The story of how he got the gun. It belonged to the fellow who had a general store in the village near where i grew up. He left it to my dad. There was no ammo with it at the time. He was pretty old when i was kid. My dad got it in the late 80's i think. As well as the ammo. Im thinking Blackhorn 209 powder. Since it cleans up easy.