The latest from Anti gun NY state!

[Hk91-762mm]

My brother was shafted by the sheriffs dept, In Genesee county [someone put schizophrenia drugs in his drink at a party and he went bonkers on the way home cops got him for DUI-he suffered permanent brain damage along with the total shafting he got from NY]
He had enough and sold everything he owned in NY and Moved to Alabama where life is great for him.
Last march dad died and he left pistols to me and my Bro. I tried to put mine on my permit and one was a gun dad got from a lawyer friend and he never registered it -I told them this expecting them to check it out and put it on my permit - I received a nasty phone call from the cops telling me I was In trouble fro having an unregistered gun -So i took it in an told them to check it out and call when it was clear --They did -----I told them TAKE it to the GUN shop in town and they will send It and All the rest of dads guns to my bro in Al. where no permit is necessary.
Brother gets a letter from NY genesee cty sheriff dept telling him is permit is revoked and he must turn in all his guns to the sheriffs dept --
AIN'T NY state GREAT!
I told them MOM is moving to AL and when I can sell out I'm outa here too -going to KY. Damn I hope they don't mess with us anymore before I can get the heck outa here ...

 

[Ohio Rifleman]

I think you'll find Kentucky worlds better. Never lived there, but it is one of the more gun-friendly states. I think you'll like it in America.

 

[Gottahaveone]

Brother gets a letter from NY genesee cty sheriff dept telling him is permit is revoked and he must turn in all his guns to the sheriffs dept --

I'm a little unclear on this part...What jurisdiction does a NY sheriff's dept have on a person living in another state? They wanted his NY permit returned? Doesn't that become invalid when you leave the state anyway? And if they were telling him to turn them over to the local cops......I expect I would smile as I crumpled that one up and shot hoops with it.

 

[Prince Yamato]

Probably from a NYer who never left the state and assumes that all other states have some sort of pistol registration. As a former NYer, I recall telling my from from NYC, that I had recently purchased a pistol (I was living in TX at the time) she said, "oh, you got your permit?" I later explained to her the law. Many people think you need permits to own firearms.

 

[jbird714]

I've lived almost all my life in Alabama and it still amazes me the number of people here that think a license is needed to own a firearm. I work part time for a friends gun shop and see it every week.

No license to purchase or keep in the home required. Only license needed for CCW on your person or in vehicle. I think you'll like it.
BTW, CCW license here in Colbert County is only $5.00/yr.

 

[Hk91-762mm]

I told him to send his NY permit back to the sherrif and tell them any further contact to be made ti his attorny inNy who just sold his last property -[moms home ] He has nothing in NY and Will never return to visit --Friends will have to go see him -Oh yeaa the sheriff 2nd In command went to school with us and I have been a vol. firefighter for 30 years here i worked side by side tith the deps.all the time . My Bro was a JVP at a Bank and Owned his own print shop-He had made musical instruments -Luthier-he cant anymore his hands shake to bad -the cops should have taken him to the hospital Insted of jail- Thats Ny for ya ! and partal blame to mad mommiies ! No justice if acused of drinking and driving ! Loose your gun rights too !
You guys in gun friendly states --Kiss the ground tonight before bed time !!!

 

[Rokyudai]

This is wordy....

So is this in Batavia? Darien Center? At any rate, I have been trying to think of some words of encouragement so that your Father's estate can remain in tact.

I know that when someone who passes away and has handguns in the estate, they can in theory be transferred to the living descendent's NYS PP. If it is an unregistered handgun, I would think that finding it 'clean' after running the serial number would prompt them to require you to immediately have the pistol permit clerk add it to your permit. That should be the end of it.

Now, if you want ALL guns to go to your bro out of state, then, what you say about a Gun Store (FFL) being able to send them to another store near your bro. should hold true. He should get them if he is eligible.


__this is scary___

This scares me regarding NYS law when you cannot fulfill the requirements of a legacy holder-

taken from: http://www.troopers.state.ny.us/FAQs/Firearms/Permits.cfm


Q - What happens to lawfully possessed firearms belonging to a licensee who has died?

The person designated as the executor or administrator of the deceased's estate may lawfully possess the firearms in question for a period of up to 15 days for the sole purpose of lawfully disposing of the firearms.

If this cannot be accomplished within the 15-day time frame, the weapons must be surrendered to a law enforcement agency who would then hold the weapons for safe keeping for a period not to exceed 2 years during which time the weapons may still be disposed of.

If the weapons are not disposed of within that time period, they will be classified as nuisance properties and destroyed.

 

[Loomis]

Maybe this is just my ignorance, but...

WHY THE HE11 are you contacting the cops for when you inherit dad's guns? It's none of their business!

In all the generations my family has lived and died in this great nation, NO ONE HAS EVER called up a cop upon dad's passing to ask for permission to keep his gun collection. Nobody registers firearms unless it's done automatically at the gunshop at time of purchase.(which, as far as I know does not ever happen)

Are new yorkers just retarded? What's going on here? I have to say this whole thread is getting my blood pressure up a bit.

 

[Prince Yamato]

Maybe this is just my ignorance, but...

New York State has had mandatory pistol registration since 1936. Grandpa's pistol wasn't registered, therefore it was illegal/contraband. This is something that I've heard of happening before. Pre-1968, it wasn't that hard to get a pistol out of state and then bring it back in... people probably did it all the time as a way of circumventing NYS law. Probably what Grandpa did in the original post. Well, Grandpa goes and dies, they clean out his stuff and probably assume that Grandpa registered it. Whoops, Grandpa didn't. That's where the trouble starts.

FWIW, NYS wouldn't even let me keep my old license plates when I moved to Texas. I had to mail them back to NYS DPS. I've never heard of people having to do that as most people I know have license plates going back years and years. (Heck, my dad still has Indiana plates from the 1960s). So, asking for your pistol license back is not all that odd. I wouldn't take it as an insult, more or less just the daily business of NYS bureaucracy.

 

[Aran]

Yamato, you should have done like I did when you left. "Sorry, someone stole my plates when I was moving."

 

[ctdonath]

"Sorry, someone stole my plates when I was moving."

Doesn't work. Not returning plates = lose your NY driving privileges = arrested if found driving in NY, regardless of plates.

What's going on here?

In NY, you may only possess handguns which are registered, by serial number, to you. That means nobody else can even touch them.

NY law sez that if the owner dies, his handguns must be turned over to police (NOT a gun store, guys!!!) until arrangements are made for someone else to be licensed to have them.

Upshot: NY doesn't want anyone to own guns, and makes it as difficult as possible to do so to persuade people not to.

 

[Hk91-762mm]

Rokyudai-- So is this in Batavia? Darien Center? -
HK-You got it -Our judge is one of 2 who will not issue personal protection permits -Sporting purposes only=Where do you live ?

Yamato-Yep dad got the 38spl. from a friends widdow and he was going to put it on his permit and Never got around to it .So after 15 days it became illegal contraband and the girl at the pistol permit bureau calld the cops when I tried to register it ;
asks loomis =WHY THE HE11 are you contacting the cops for when you inherit dad's guns? It's none of their business!
If you move from NYstinking state You have to surrender your permit-WHY?? dont ask me maby they dont want you to return and exercise your 2nd amendment rights ...!:banghead:

[I had a reciept from the widdow and her husbands permit in hand ]-I already have 14 guns on my permit So I have to go before the judge and Beg permission to add more ! Im allowed 15 so I put moms woodsman on my permit =And Im not begging the judge for permission to add the 16th.
Im just telling you guys this story so you will truely understand how well you have it in gun free states-Dont let the libs get your rights .
Western NY is GODS country! mostly farms and Hunting country.NRA decals abound .

 

[Happiness Is A Warm Gun]

NY doesn't want anyone to own guns, and makes it as difficult as possible to do so to persuade people not to.

EXACTLY. All these nuisince laws have nothing to do with stopping crime or keeping guns out the hands of criminals.

They make the process as complicated as possible. Then every few years they change procedures, add in loopholes, throw in some vague statutes that can be interpreted 20 different ways and bingo most people say "screw this it isn't worth the trouble" and the government gets their wish.

Less legal gun ownership is the only goal.

 

[AntiqueCollector]

I don't know if it'd get you in trouble with your state laws, but I would have just shipped it to an FFL (no need to get one in NY involved) in AL for your brother to get it. No good could ever come from going to the NY police with an unregistered handgun. NY laws suck. VT next door is every bit as beautiful as upstate NY and is much more free...

 

[shooting4life]

And I thought it was bad in California

 

[ctdonath]

WHY THE HE11 are you contacting the cops for when you inherit dad's guns? It's none of their business!

IT'S THE LAW. The licensee is deceased, and NOBODY else is authorized to even TOUCH those guns. They MUST be transferred to the police (not a gun shop, not a relative, not a lawyer - COPS ONLY), who will hold them until licensing arrangements are made (grace period of, IIRC, 15 days to get them to the cops, and 2 years to get them re-licensed).

If you move from NYstinking state You have to surrender your permit-WHY??

Because you're not a NY resident. Only NY residents can have NY pistol permits. If you're not a resident, you don't get to have a permit.

Im not begging the judge for permission to add the 16th.

Then you risk arrest for violation of numerous laws, risk arrest of whoever you got the gun from, and will subsequently lose every gun you own.
Do the paperwork, or move. Breaking the law is bad news.

Im just telling you guys this story so you will truely understand how well you have it in gun free states-Dont let the libs get your rights .

I moved. Batavia NY to just outside Atlanta GA. Only permit I need is to carry in public. They don't know, or care, what I have. Machineguns are for sale about 2 miles from here.
...and other than average temperature, the environment is surprisingly comparable to western NY.

 

[Rokyudai]

HK: I used to live in Catt. Co. Olean area. In Catt., all I remember doing for a PP is filling out the app. then going to Little Valley to meet with the PP clerk, get printed, sign off on some forms, and wait 9 months!

 

[Hk91-762mm]

rokyudai /ctdonath PM sent !
I have already done the paper work and have sent all my dads guns to al through a FFl to an FFl In Al. Done!
Now the Genesee cty is trying to revoke my bros permit---YEP cant have a CCw in ny if you reside out of state --The only good thing about this is ==TTAaadDAaaaa ALL THE GOOD PEOPLE ARE LEAVING THE STATE LIKE RATS FROM A SINKING SHIP --Our departure makes another state Better by us moving there! YEEaaaaYYYyyyy

 

[Larry E]

Had a woman who'd come to Seattle from NYC, and said something about registering a gun. Uh, why, Washington doesn't have gun registration. She looked at me like I was telling her about little green men walking around out in the hall.

Never lived any place that required gun registration, and never will.

 

[rondog]

I lived in the Syracuse area for several years. At the time, I had a S&W Model 19 that I brought with me from Oklahoma. I was scared to death to shoot it, even though I lived in the country, because of their draconian gun laws.

You couldn't even LOOK at a pistol in a gun shop, unless you produced your "permit" first. They wouldn't even waste their time taking it out of the case.

Beautiful state, and lots of deer, but absolutely the most un-human-friendly state I've ever lived in. I HATED it there, and I'll never go back. They're also terrible Nazi's about motorcycle helmets. The ultimate Nanny State.

 

[blackcash88]

If you move from NYstinking state You have to surrender your permit-WHY??

Because there is no such thing as a non-resident NY permit. Once you move, you're no longer a resident and it's not valid anymore. As for them wanting it back, what can they do if you don't return it? I'd rather save the postage and just toss it in the shredder. If it's like the license plate thing where you can't drive in NY if you don't send them back and can be arrested, who really frickin' cares. I'd NEVER go back there anyway. I live in CT and hate NYS/C with a passion. Not too fond of CT, either, but at least the gun laws are a LOT better.

 

[yhtomit]

Good reason I no longer live in NYC. It was fun for a brief time, and in many ways the center of the Universe (or one of the several centers), but I haven't even visited there in a few years and miss it surprisingly little. I choose where I live in large part based on the laws, with gun laws and tax laws at the top of that list.

It's a shame, though, what with the U.S. Constitution and all, that this should ever be even close to a serious issue.

timothy

 

[ImARugerFan]

Your posts are kind of hard to follow. Anyway, yes they want your brother's permit back because he doesn't live here anymore, it says right on the permit that if you move, you have to contact the sheriff that issued the permit. Also, Trying to register an unregistered gun in NY is just crazy. The rules are annoying, but very simple to follow, you could have gotten in a lot of trouble for possessing that pistol.

 

[Vaarok]

Vermont's turning into a socialist nightmare every time a yuppie from MA jumps the border or some Californian buys a cottage in the hills.

And it's not NY that wants to outlaw firearm ownership, it's NYC. The City and the State are different, it's just that the City has so much more political power than the rest of the state, and enforces that power monopoly whenever we try to take back our power. The only reason we haven't seceded is we don't have enough political clout to do so, and the City wants to keep its water reservoirs and electrical power routes.

 

[Aran]

Doesn't work. Not returning plates = lose your NY driving privileges = arrested if found driving in NY, regardless of plates.

Oh really? I guess you should inform the DMV of that then, as all I had to do was sign a form stating they were stolen/lost and there was no issue.