Pistol caliber carbine poll / semi-autos only

[someguy2800]

I've decided if I ever see another Marlin camp 9 for a good deal I'm going to buy it. I saw one last fall for $500 but I didn't even know what it was. I went home and googled it and it was gone when I went back for it.

 

[C0untZer0]

I see that the price for the Ruger PC Carbine has dropped to $489 + 19.99 S&H

Twenty bucks seems kind of high for shipping, but maybe I'm used to 10 bucks for shipping a handgun. I've never purchased a rifle online.

I'm hoping they drop below $500 - shipped.

 

[sparkyv]

Ruger PC Carbine and Ruger American Pistol, both in 10mm. Yeah, right. Dream on.

 

[chicharrones]

I see that the price for the Ruger PC Carbine has dropped to $489 + 19.99 S&H

Twenty bucks seems kind of high for shipping, but maybe I'm used to 10 bucks for shipping a handgun. I've never purchased a rifle online.

I'm hoping they drop below $500 - shipped.

There's a locally owned chain of gun stores around here that advertised them last week for $599.00 before TT&L.

 

[gotboostvr]

Ruger PC Carbine and Ruger American Pistol, both in 10mm. Yeah, right. Dream on.

I just bought a Scorpion Evo to scratch my sub gun itch, but if Ruger drops a 10mm carbine I very likely will pick one up as a backup deer carbine for drives in the brush.

 

[C0untZer0]

There's a locally owned chain of gun stores around here that advertised them last week for $599.00 before TT&L.

I understand "tax" is one of the Ts but title, transfer, or licensing ?

 

[chicharrones]

I understand "tax" is one of the Ts but title, transfer, or licensing ?

Just a silly car referenced joke (tax, title, and license) to represent shipping and transfer or just tax if bought locally.

 

[chicharrones]

I just bought a Scorpion Evo to scratch my sub gun itch, but if Ruger drops a 10mm carbine I very likely will pick one up as a backup deer carbine for drives in the brush.

Nice. Congrats!

 

[gotboostvr]

Nice. Congrats!

Thanks, I went with the 7.7" pistol. I've already got a factory side folder with a gearhead tailhook brace waiting on the scorpion to get here. It should be a slick little number once it's all put together and squared away.

 

[792mauser]

Love my new scorpion evo and brace. Such fun.
Dang thing even gobbles up cruddy my old lead reloads from my early days learning on the Lee whack a mole days.

 

[RPZ]

The 95gr +P cartridges would produce an even flatter trajectory I'd imagine.

Hardly anyone does gel tests from a carbine, maybe everyone just assumes that any SD ammo is going to perform awesomely from 16" barrel, but I'd like to see some tests. I'd really be interested to see how the 150gr Federal 150gr 9mm HST P9HST5S performs out of a 16" barrel. I'm also curious about the copper hollowpoints like Barnes and Corbon DPX. Those bullets open up beautifully, and they penetrate OK, but a couple more inches of penetration would be great. I don't know if you get that though by making them go faster... Sometimes the extra speed ends up creating more expansion but not that much more penetration.

And this is interesting. I would imagine that some of the best carbine loads would be those that had moderate expansion and penetration in the 16-18 inch range from pistol length barrels.

 

[shepsan]

I looked long and hard at the PC market before I decided on the 9mm Ruger PC Carbine. The results of my two range sessions with it has validated my choice being that this fine carbine is all that I hoped it would be.

187 rounds each of S&B 114gr and 124gr FMJ have been shot without a single failure to load, feed or fire.

The carbine with a Vortex Crossfire red dot sight, muzzle brake, bipod and loaded 17 round magazine is hefty (8.4 lbs.). Nevertheless, recoil is easily manageable.

Because I purchased this piece for home defense and recreational target shooting, during my first two range sessions, after zeroing the farthest distance I shot was 75 yards. Accuracy at 15, 25, 50 was excellent. At 75 yards accuracy by my lack of arm strength to hold the carbine steady from the shoulder was not as good. I had to lower the carbine after five or six rounds and then shoulder again to finish the magazine. I am confident that a younger stronger person would not have this situation with which to contend.

One final note, having a long gun using the same caliber as my daily carry pistol makes the stocking only one ammo caliber a very simple task.

 

[someguy2800]

I recently got the urge to build a 9mm AR pistol so I sold my hi point 995 the other day and ordered some parts. I ordered a PSA colt style assembled lower, a 9mm BCG, and a KAK pistol brace. I was going to get a spikes tactical colt lower but the PSA will save about $100. Not sure what upper I am going to get, I am going to test fit the BCG in my side charging upper and see if that looks like it will work. Ideally I would like to get a bear creek right side charging upper for it and drill and tap the BCG for a charging handle. For a barrel I will be getting a Faxon 10.5" and putting a krink brake on it until my suppressor is out of jail.

 

[chicharrones]

Since Pistol Caliber Carbines are often derived from sub machine gun types, this is an interesting development.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/...te-10-subguns-for-sub-compact-weapon-program/

https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&tab=core&id=d210999cdc51d393728bd8774dac0170

 

[chicharrones]

And speaking of further developments, it looks like the aftermarket for the Ruger PCC is gearing up.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/06/08/pmm-mlok-handguard/

 

[Kaybee]

I imagine with the popularity of that rifle the people at magpul are putting some time in developing a stock for the pc carbine right now.

 

[Havok7416]

And speaking of further developments, it looks like the aftermarket for the Ruger PCC is gearing up.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/06/08/pmm-mlok-handguard/

That's oing to be a very hot metal handguard. The stock handguard on my carbine is already almost too hot to touch after a few hundred rounds.

 

[chicharrones]

That's oing to be a very hot metal handguard. The stock handguard on my carbine is already almost too hot to touch after a few hundred rounds.

Is that due to a distance from the barrel issue with the Ruger forend?

 

[Corpral_Agarn]

Just put together my DI 45 ACP carbine.

It sports a dedicated lower from Green Swamp tactical (no longer in business) and an upper from Rudy at Macon Armory (https://maconarmory.com/).

I cannot say enough good things about Macon Armory.
When I explained in my order that I couldn't have a flash hider, Rudy called me and offered to make me a Custom Cutts Compensator.

We talked some more and then he even shortened the barrel and pin/welded the comp to bring the barrel to just over 16".

I have 52 rounds through the rig and I really, really like it.

Pics to come soon!

 

[Havok7416]

Is that due to a distance from the barrel issue with the Ruger forend?

I have no idea what causes the issue. When I get a moment I'll take a closer look.

 

[CoalTrain49]

Since Pistol Caliber Carbines are often derived from sub machine gun types, this is an interesting development.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/...te-10-subguns-for-sub-compact-weapon-program/

https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&tab=core&id=d210999cdc51d393728bd8774dac0170

Maschinenpistole 40, sehr gut.

 

[Kaybee]

For the Ruger pc carbine, what would really excite me is to see more magazine adapters. Though my favorite pistol, the cz-p07 will probably never see one.