Pizza Guy follow up with autopsy report.

[WonderNine]

Got people robbing pizza men left and right and strapping bombs around their necks, but does company policy allow them to defend themselves? No.

I've been thinking of doing it for some extra cash, I can guarantee you that I'll be CCWing. Like I could care less about getting fired from a job like that anyways....lol

 

[Aguila Blanca]

Family loyalty is a beautiful thing but do they really believe that the Pizza Guy set out to intentionally murder the deceased? That he had no reason to fire?

Of course not. They most likely knew perfectly well what junior was doing on his nights out. They're just upset because he forgot to chamber a round before pulling the trigger, and that caused his evening's (and life's) plans to go down the toilet.

 

[Treylis]

And I REALLY wish the pizza guy would talk to a lawyer and stop talking to the press.

Perhaps some folks from here should try to contact the guy and tell him that?

 

[joab]

How many hits did Amadou take in NYC before going down?

41!!!

Shaunika Jackson, Brown-Dancler's sister

RaShaad Germany, Brown-Dancler's brother

Brown-Dancler's mother, Esther Birden-Jones

I think this says something about the mother's decision making abilities and family values that were probably passed on to the son

Birden-Jones said Honeycutt, at the very least, should face charges for moving what he said was her son's gun from the scene of the crime. "You go to jail for leaving the scene of an accident."

sounds like a reasonable act to me don't cops remove a gun from a BG reach even after he's been shot, and don't they secure an area and call for back up. Honecutt just made do with what he had to work with

"Then at least my son would not have died in vain, and it wouldn't be like no one cares," she said.

Her son did die in vain, he died because he was allowed to drop out of HS, he died because he was not raised with family values that would have steered him away from a life of crime, He died because all his life excuses were made for him and his actions. He died because he did not have the minimal amount of moral character that it takes not to rob someone with a gun
(most of the last comments were base on assumptions and supposition, but I stand by them)

 

[Jim V]

Do we really expect anything different than the family's reaction to the pruning of their family tree? Of course the "victim" was a good boy, going to school, loved to play basketball, treated his mother and sisters well, was a good father to his 8 kids by 7 different mothers, worked hard at his chosen profession (besides lawn care) and it was a mistake that he was trying to rob a pizza delivery man, he was just trying to give him a pistol he found in the street when he was gunned down like a mad dog.

:CENSOR: the family.

But I would like to see someone in the family of a no longer operational robber say: "I was wondering how long it would take before he was killed sticking up someone. He always was a rotten SOB."

 

[Bartholomew Roberts]

Shouldn't we wait for an investigation before we defend this guy as a hero of some sorts?

There certainly could be a good explanation for some of the actions; but there are also a few bad ones as well. The pizza guy picked up the gun from the alleged robber and drove off back to his job before reporting it? Now the coroner is saying that some of the shots may have been fired while the alleged robber was on the ground?

Just because someone claims self-defense doesn't necessarily make it so and we want to be careful about lending a lot of support and making a huge issue out of a case where there are at least a few good reasons to question the deliveryman's version of events.

 

[denny]

"There's no way someone could be standing up after being shot so many times," he said.

Does anyone remember, or have a link to, IIRC, the Indiana or Illinois, State Trooper who emptied twenty-five (25) rounds of 185G HP .45ACP into a man several years ago?

I had it archived, but lost it when an HD when belly-up two years ago- I think it was from Ayoob's files.

That would be a big help to this man and the public's perception of this event.

Denny

 

[M2HMGHB]

What is the angle of the entry wounds on the shots? That should be a pretty good indication if or if not the perp was shot after he fell.

 

[Aguila Blanca]

Aside from casting doubt on the pizza guy's verbal credibility, what difference does it make if some of the shots were fired when the perp was down? He still (allegedly) had a gun in his hand. If he has a gun and he's breathing, he's a threat.

 

[Zundfolge]

Linehan said that would have been impossible.

"There's no way someone could be standing up after being shot so many times," he said.

Maybe Linehan should talk to the FBI ... have him ask them about a little shootout in Miami back in the '80s ... ask him how many shots Platt and Matix took before killing a couple of feds ... ask him why the FBI switched to 10mm afterward.

 

[Esky]

Hmmm....

I guess maybe I'll be looking for a 1911 in .45 pretty soon now... 'cause Pizza Guy would be in a lot better legal shape if he'd only had to shoot the BG once or twice.

Even if he went to slidelock, it wouldn't sound quite so bad, would it?

Here in the PRK, my CZ75b in 9mm is only allowed to have 10+1, and that may not be enough Europellets to do the job on one of these big overgrown "boys".


Esky

 

[El Tejon]

So what if the robber was down. You can still shoot from the supine position (heck, I even practice it). Does not IPD SRT still train to shoot a theat until the weapon is out of the threat's hands??? Sounds like pizza man needs to try out for IPD SRT, no?

Someone should yank pizza man by the ear and tell him to **** RFN! This could get real ugly.

 

[RED-DOG 40]

"Someone should yank pizza man by the ear and tell him to **** RFN! This could get real ugly."

...To the point, take heed Mr. Pizza guy.

 

[straightShot]

Shouldn't we wait for an investigation before we defend this guy as a hero of some sorts?

You're correct, but doesn't it seem odd that the perp's family never denied that he would attempt to rob someone at gunpoint? Nothing of the sort was ever reported in the story.