plaxico burress shoots himself

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There used to be laws in many states prohibiting negros from owning firearms. Should those laws be reinstated? It seems that the NFL attitude is similar being that most players are black. Or should the right of ALL people to keep and bear arms...never mind. If some idiot shoots himself, EVERYBODY should be prohibited from keeping and bearing arms, right?
 
Gee.....a player from a NJ team shoots himself in a NYC club.....and he's still on the street. Does "Jason Williams" ring a bell here ?

Why is it so many black sports stars seem to get a "pass" on firearms in the most hoplophobic region of the US when legitimate firearms owners are being made to jump through increasingly smaller hoops - and prosecuted to "fullest extent of the law" when they err ?

Just as the ilk of Drew Pearson, Jimmy Breslin, ect get a CCW in NYC to protect their grand or so pocket change, but a poor bodega owner gets canned for having a gun in his store where his weekly receipts are maybe twice that.... Or, heaven forbid, he shoots a rapist with a record in his daughter's bedroom..... !!! >MW
 
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On the bright side, here is guy with enough money to push a court challenge to New York's pistol laws pretty far up the legal food chain, based on violation of 2A rights.


You get a few pricey loudmouth lawyers, you assemble a public relations team that starts spinning by throwing a few punches by comparing New York to 40 odd states in the union with less restrictive laws etc etc. Signal that you are willing to play serious hardball (and have the resources to do it) and NY starts to realize it cost/benefit wise it ain't worth it.

There's no doubt they can get him on something - ND at a nightclub indicates something akin to AT LEAST disorderly conduct. But thats a far cry from ciminal possession. Do you think NY is REALLY willing to risk the status quo over this?

My guess is it gets plead down to some bozo "disturbing the piece" type deal then swept under the carpet real quick.
 
There used to be laws in many states prohibiting negros from owning firearms. Should those laws be reinstated? It seems that the NFL attitude is similar being that most players are black. Or should the right of ALL people to keep and bear arms...never mind. If some idiot shoots himself, EVERYBODY should be prohibited from keeping and bearing arms, right?
 
Burress initially was turned away at the nightclub because he had a gun but was let in around midnight after telling the club's management that he needed the firearm to protect himself, according to the Daily News.
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Sounds to me like the club should be needing a new manager soon...
 
Sounds to me like the club should be needing a new manager soon...
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Sounds to me like Burress needs to give some thought about the types of places he chooses to frequent. Its totally reasonable to carry concealed because something, somewhere might happen, by some off chance. Its totally different to carry because you're expecting a gunfight.
 
Is Plaxico really just some NFL thug with a gun, though?

He did have his Florida permit.

Maybe he is more for RKBA than you guys think.
If so, he needs support, not a mob gathering to watch him hang.
 
Is Plaxico really just some NFL thug with a gun, though?

He did have his Florida permit.
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Which expired last May. And having a permit doesnt make it smart to voluntarily put yourself into bad situations.

And have you been to a nightclub, and seen the folks there? Your "thug with a gun" comment is a pretty accurate description of many nightclub customers.
 
He has lost the support of the giant fans and probably his team mates. I was fortunate enough to know the Manning family (at least dad) when my wife worked with him. They don’t put up with that type of behavior.

He will be turning himself in on Monday. That saves the time and expense of having to extradite him back to NYC. The charges are being drawn up and filed.

As for this rocket scientist, he carried the handgun in his waistband when he entered the Latin Quarter. It slipped down his leg where he tried to grab it. Guess what happened next?????

Antonio Pierce was with him along with another Giant’s player. No 9-11 or EMS. The hospital did not report the incident to NYPD until it was in the press. No this mope screws up everyone around him. Totowa is probably ready to ask him to move out of the town. The police are tired of getting the domestic calls from his wife. Maybe his mob lawyer can handle the divorce along with his defense on the gun case.

For this I pay $85 a seat and they want a 2K hit to keep the seats.

As far as Jason Williams, he pretty much lost everything from that case. The civil suit cost him a fortune and his legal fees amount to the gross national product of a small country. If I remember correctly, he still has some charges that will be reheard in court. His problem was trying to cover it up instead of just coming clean. It was nothing more than a stupid accident due to alcohol.
 
Owen Sparks pondered:

There used to be laws in many states prohibiting negros from owning firearms. Should those laws be reinstated? It seems that the NFL attitude is similar being that most players are black. Or should the right of ALL people to keep and bear arms...never mind. If some idiot shoots himself, EVERYBODY should be prohibited from keeping and bearing arms, right?
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Those are the sort of comment that we do not need at THR.

Respectfully,

Doc2005
 
Parallel this case with the two combat vets from Ft. Drum and I'll bet the two football stars win.
 
Those are the sort of comment that we do not need at THR.
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Doc, I think you misunderstood. I believe that the poster was comparing the NFLs position on this to more, ah, plantation viewpoints from a thankfully bygone era.

Or maybe NOT so bygone. :(
 
If he does NOT get a felony I'll be appalled. So he had a FL permit, that's great, but you have to know the laws of where you intend to carry. NYC is not a gun friendly place. As a responsible gun owner he should have known that. Was he drinking too?

This is a black eye to legal responsible gun owners IMO...
 
While we all think that this action is reprehensible, I do think it is important for all of us to contact that mental midget at ESPN to let him know what we think. Don't let me be the only one to have commented on it.
 
I just want to know what his lawyers strategy here is...he's shot himself in the leg. If we accept that as fact, and also accept that he doesn't have a valid NYC permit...how was he NOT in illegal possession of a concealed weapon?
 
because the supreme court said that the second ammendment was an idividual right. so all laws in gun barring states are being reviewed.
 
Yeah

It would have been better if some guy shot a known sex offender with an unregistered handgun coming into his daughter's bedroom window. But Burress? Charging him with stupidity is a lot easier to swallow than "illegal possession of a handgun" in NYC one of tha last bastions of 2A rights (NOT!)

The DA's come at him with felony criminal gun possession. saying the next time he suits up for a game will be when he's in his 60's when he gets out of jail, then I hope he forgoes some "bling" tosses 2-3 million to his lawyers and says "Nail'em".

Like I said in my above post, get a good public relations team to get up on its hind legs, and howl about "Unconstitutional restrictions", ya slip one of Rev. Al's favorite charites some $$$ so he gets on his soapbox and starts mentioning "endemic rascisim in the NYC legal system..." and things get rapidly interesting. And ugly, if the NYC DA's take a hardline as this guy has the money to push back.


What makes the case even more poetic is - the Night Club refused him entry 'cause he was packing the first time, but let him in the second time???
 
I don't know if he's a convicted felon or not, but I do know that gang influence has been a problem in professional sports for years. ESPN did a special on it at least 10 years ago. I have it on videotape somewhere. The NFL and NBA have the worst problem with it, but it's a problem in all professional sports.
 
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