plaxico burress shoots himself

[DAVIDSDIVAD]

Which expired last May. And having a permit doesnt make it smart to voluntarily put yourself into bad situations.

And have you been to a nightclub, and seen the folks there? Your "thug with a gun" comment is a pretty accurate description of many nightclub customers.

Well, I've never been to the nightclubs an NFL player with money coming out of his ears goes to.

I doubt the places he frequents are the slums you imagine.


all I'm saying is good for the goose, good for the gander

when in rome

apple doesn't fall far from the tree

a penny saved.

 

[cobra2411]

Anyone have a link to contact them? Post it and lets give em hell...

 

[SaltH2OHokie]

I don't know if he's a convicted felon or not, but I do know that gang influence has been a problem in professional sports for years. ESPN did a special on it at least 10 years ago. I have it on videotape somewhere. The NFL and NBA have the worst problem with it, but it's a problem in all professional sports.

Number two in TV ratings, NASCAR? PGA Golf? LPGA?

Kidding...but seriously, not all

I doubt the places he frequents are the slums you imagine.


all I'm saying is good for the goose, good for the gander

That's sorta my point...good for the goose, good for the gander: if I went into a bar in North Carolina, I might be a valid permit holder in VA, but that doesn't mean the 2nd amendment now gives me the right to break NC's laws just because I'm an "individual" does it? Nor does it give Plaxico the "right" to head into a prohibited place in NYC with a gun...I'd expect to be arrested if caught with my gun, and I can't think of a defense that would get me off, so I'm curious what his is going to be.

 

[woofe]

What a dumb a$$

 

[The_Shootist]

Ok

So what would be a "prohibited" place in NYC , besides the whole city in an environment that may be in complete violation of the 2A given the recent Heller ruling???

Its one thing to say a bar in Texas/NC/Va is "prohibited" as those states have a codifed CHL program - in New York its pretty much a ban on "weapons of common use".

Indeed, suppose I'm a non-drinker who wouldn't consume alcoholic beverages anyway, even those laws look discrimnatory.

 

[7.62X25mm]

Oregon allows CCW in bars, taverns, restaurants serving liquor.

You can drink and have the gun, CCW, even open carry in most places.

You cannot be under the influence, even if you're sitting around a campfire out in the woods on a hunting expedition.

 

[blutarsky]

10 to 1 it was a Glock!

that was my first thought as well, and i bet quite a few other people had the same. i'm not a glock hater, but the thought still came to mind that being said, i just saw this:

http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081201/SPORTS/812010334/-1/SPORTS

... Burress, police said, did not have a permit to carry a gun in New York City. A law enforcement official said that the gun, a Glock semiautomatic pistol, was recovered at Burress’ home in Totowa, N.J....

 

[leadcounsel]

I'd like to see him charged and FIGHT it and win on constitutional grounds. Little guys can't afford the lawsuit, but he has a large enough bankroll to fight it.

Too bad he's not the best postchild for gun rights. It could go very badly for the 2A solely based on his persona and the facts (ND in a crowded nightclub).

 

[ilbob]

When I first read this story I figured it was another thug NFL player at some dive. I gather from the description in one of the papers that the "nightclub" is not exactly a dive.

What I cannot understand is that according to a report I read the security people at the "nightclub" initially would not let him in because he had a gun, but later on did let him in, knowing he had a gun.

His chances of winning against a charge of concealed carry is nil on constitutional grounds. He probably would have to show he applied and was turned down.

I think he is toast, although the situation is adequately muddled enough that a slick lawyer might be able to do him some good.

 

[flphotoguy]

Burress is not going to go down alone. He was with Giants linebacker Antonio Pierce who allegedly brought the gun back to Burress' home in New Jersey. The night club security let him in when they knew he had a weapon and then covered up the incident when it happened. The same thing happened at the hospital where Burress gave a false name and story. That doesn't matter, hospitals are required to report all gun shot incidents. Buress had a Florida permit that he let expire in May. You can't carry in a bar in Florida unless you are seated in a separate restaurant section that is serving food, which doesn't matter since there is no reciprocity and his permit was invalid anyway.

This whole situation is going to play out like another OJ trial.

 

[Art Eatman]

Per this morning's news, he's turning himself in. Lawyers and all that.

Enuf harumphing and venting.