previous message from PvtPyle deleted because I'm at work posting from the same computer, and was logged in under his name.
You still sore about the "rolling" thread Correia? I say grow up and get over it. One would expect the management at THR to demand a higher standard of conduct from their moderators.
It honestly didn't cross my mind. You can do a search of this topic, and you will see that I pretty much always come down on the same side of this argument. I didn't even realize it was you that I was butting heads with.
As for growing up, instead of casting aspersions at me as a moderator, whey don't we stick to the subject at hand?
If the militarization of the civilian police forces is such a great idea, care to explain how the community will benefit from such?
You will note, I talked about hardware. Hardware doesn't equal militarization. Software does. I personally own more machine guns, suppresors, night vision, and body armor than most small police departments, yet I don't trample on anyone's rights. I think that every single person in America should have evil black rifles and all the gear that they can handle.
You are taking a difficult question about police responsibility and mission focus, and freaking out because somebody has a 700 and an AR15.
The community benefits when bad people get shot, and good guys don't get shot. Seems pretty straight forward to me.
Care to take a poll of the law abiding gun owners who rode Katrina out to see how they feel about said militarization? Perhaps you will not be able to see the point until it is your mother or other loved one they are beating down over a 38 revolver rather than some strange face on the television.
Nice strawman. Set 'em up. Knock them down.
Once again, I'm not saying militarization is good. And if you had a clue who I was, or what my history was, you wouldn't even dare go there. (just so you know, I was about the first guy online to relay information about the confiscations back from National Guard on the groun who refused to confiscate guns, and encourage everyone to call their governor's office. Those were my quotes that ended up in national news magazines, but attributed to someone else's name)
However when you sound like a bleating anti-gunner, freaking out over evil features, expect to get called on it.
Hardware has jack squat to do with how police abuse their authority. No more than your AR makes you a school shooter.
LEO's may very well be better served by military weaponry, military vehicles and military training. The community might be safer because of such. A number might die by not doing so.
Yep. Serve and protect and whatnot. That is their job. If I can have a suppressed AR to defend my home, why would I not expect a deputy to have the same tools.
Its a necessary price to prevent subjugation of rights and perservation of liberty. This is the stark reality of the sitution. Accept it or not, it is what it is.
And on what planet does a rural sheriff's deputy having a 700 and an AR subjugate your rights and liberty? I do not accept it. I think your argument is flawed, and is just more chicken little, sky is falling BS.
That same deputy could destroy your rights with a K frame .38 special. Before cops had automatic weapons or armor, back in the "good old days" it was pretty common for law enforcement to pick up "undesireables" beat them to within an inch of their life, and toss them on the first rail car out of town.
Once again, hardware doesn't mean squat.
The politics of the department are what are dangerous, not what is riding around in the individual's trunk. If that were the case, I would be one bad dude, but in reality, I'm a pretty nice guy.
Once a freedom is given up, its one mother of a fight to get it back.
Have you ever argued with anyone on the internet and not been patronizing? You already hate my guts, so I'm assuming that is where that is coming from. Yes, I'm aware, but once again, I don't see a deputy having the tools he needs to face an emergency destroying my rights.
Look, I've read about 1,000 of these threads, and it always comes back to the same general vibe. I think the ugly truth hiding just under the surface is that some folks feel outgunned, and that they are waiting to shoot it out with the cops when they feel their rights are in danger.
If you are at the point when society at large's rights are in danger, and it is armed revolt time, the 700 in that deputy's trunk means about nothing.
In fact, most of the deputies around here are on our side. Most of the NG around here are on our side. (there's a reason they won't let the Utah NG have nuclear weapons
)
Maybe we should concentrate on the real enemies of freedom, and quit generating stupid cop bashing threads that do nothing but drive a wedge between us and the rank and file that should be our friends.