Poll - University of Kentucky student CCW
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MICHAEL T
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83% for 17% against
AZTOY
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Done!
83% yes
83% yes
gunman42782
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Being from KY, I was happy to vote yes in that poll!
.....As a ccw'er I have no problem with carrying a gene pool chlorine injector. You never know if ( or when) you are going to need it!!!!!Henry Bowman
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Voted. Now at 85%/15%.
SitRep request: Now that we are at the end of the week, can anyone report responses to the empty holster protest week?
SitRep request: Now that we are at the end of the week, can anyone report responses to the empty holster protest week?
RKBABob
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85% Yes
15% No
Of course, its not scientific... in order to be a scientific poll, there must be a choice for "undecided" or "Ummm.. derrr... Whut wus th' question again?"
15% No
Of course, its not scientific... in order to be a scientific poll, there must be a choice for "undecided" or "Ummm.. derrr... Whut wus th' question again?"
Diverdave
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"gene pool chlorine injector"
Good one.
Good one.
Folks, usual caveat for web posting/voting from a link.
The admin's will be able to check the web site you came from when you vote, so open a fresh window and don't just go direct from THR. Don't want someone to say this voting was skewed do we.......
The admin's will be able to check the web site you came from when you vote, so open a fresh window and don't just go direct from THR. Don't want someone to say this voting was skewed do we.......
mpc12
"Considering it is legal in KY to carry at post secondary schools, of course I voted yes. Granted, I would have voted yes anyway...But still..."
Today 01:52 AM
I work at one of the community colleges in KY and weapons are totally banned on campus regardless of CDW permit or not. We are officially a ready made, victim rich environment, but hey the powers that be in Lexington can sleep better and feel good about themselves because of that.
About 10 yrs ago at my campus we had one moronic administrator attempt to tell a police officer he couldn't come on campus on duty while armed. The officer, a police chief from the nearby city informed the administrator, thats fine, none of my officers will be responding to any calls from your campus, as it is department policy, you are armed when on duty. Mr. Administrator I suggest you make other arrangements for your campus in case you need a law enforcement officer. The administrator quickly changed his mind. Putz...
"Considering it is legal in KY to carry at post secondary schools, of course I voted yes. Granted, I would have voted yes anyway...But still..."
Today 01:52 AM
I work at one of the community colleges in KY and weapons are totally banned on campus regardless of CDW permit or not. We are officially a ready made, victim rich environment, but hey the powers that be in Lexington can sleep better and feel good about themselves because of that.
About 10 yrs ago at my campus we had one moronic administrator attempt to tell a police officer he couldn't come on campus on duty while armed. The officer, a police chief from the nearby city informed the administrator, thats fine, none of my officers will be responding to any calls from your campus, as it is department policy, you are armed when on duty. Mr. Administrator I suggest you make other arrangements for your campus in case you need a law enforcement officer. The administrator quickly changed his mind. Putz...
Schutzen
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In that Fayette County is the most anti-gun county in the Commonwealth, I wish you luck. However, having lived in Lexington, I agree with CCDW.
Yes, students with CCDW permits should be allowed to carry on campus.
Schutzen, Univ of KY Class of '74
In that Fayette County is the most anti-gun county in the Commonwealth, I wish you luck. However, having lived in Lexington, I agree with CCDW.
Yes, students with CCDW permits should be allowed to carry on campus.
Schutzen, Univ of KY Class of '74
Ghost Tracker
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I'm a UK Alum (Class of '81) & a past member of the UK Rifle Team (NCAA Smallbore). 100% YES! The Rights of a Citizen of the Commonwealth of Kentucky & The United States of America should NOT be forfeited upon becoming a student, visitor or faculity member at a State University.
nightscool
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sarge83 I work for KCTCS too. You may find it interesting that at the big safety meeting at E'town, a certain large person from facilities stated that it is illegal to carry on campus and that it was specified by law. Of course he can't supply the KRS on it and I would not bet against that if pressed he would tell you M.S. was working on it.
lance22
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i hit it
Yes 85%
No 15%
Yes 85%
No 15%
Sarge83
"I work at one of the community colleges in KY and weapons are totally banned on campus regardless of CDW permit or not. We are officially a ready made, victim rich environment, but hey the powers that be in Lexington can sleep better and feel good about themselves because of that.
About 10 yrs ago at my campus we had one moronic administrator attempt to tell a police officer he couldn't come on campus on duty while armed. The officer, a police chief from the nearby city informed the administrator, thats fine, none of my officers will be responding to any calls from your campus, as it is department policy, you are armed when on duty. Mr. Administrator I suggest you make other arrangements for your campus in case you need a law enforcement officer. The administrator quickly changed his mind. Putz..."
I have attended two post secondary school recently which have both banned ccw. However, there is no state law saying that post secondary schools are off limits, but rather it is up to them to control the presence of weapons. And as a result, I share your ready made victim feeling. It's funny to me the place that I have the biggest chance of needing my firearm (at least in terms of 16,000+ people on any given day) I have been told that doing so will land me a criminal trespassing charge and ejection from the school. Simply amazing.
"I work at one of the community colleges in KY and weapons are totally banned on campus regardless of CDW permit or not. We are officially a ready made, victim rich environment, but hey the powers that be in Lexington can sleep better and feel good about themselves because of that.
About 10 yrs ago at my campus we had one moronic administrator attempt to tell a police officer he couldn't come on campus on duty while armed. The officer, a police chief from the nearby city informed the administrator, thats fine, none of my officers will be responding to any calls from your campus, as it is department policy, you are armed when on duty. Mr. Administrator I suggest you make other arrangements for your campus in case you need a law enforcement officer. The administrator quickly changed his mind. Putz..."
I have attended two post secondary school recently which have both banned ccw. However, there is no state law saying that post secondary schools are off limits, but rather it is up to them to control the presence of weapons. And as a result, I share your ready made victim feeling. It's funny to me the place that I have the biggest chance of needing my firearm (at least in terms of 16,000+ people on any given day) I have been told that doing so will land me a criminal trespassing charge and ejection from the school. Simply amazing.
10 Ring Tao
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Exactly.
Everyone should right click on the link, select 'copy shortcut' or 'copy link', and then paste it into the address bar of their browser.
Polls that fell our way on network news sites have been discounted because it was found that the respondents were coming from gun forums.
My guess is that the poll that will really matter the people who make the rules is what the parents of current students think - or what the university's insurer thinks. And I think we'll lose that poll in a landslide.
Most people - and insurance companies' - view of college is "Animal House".
The insurer will almost certainly think "college students + beer + guns = increased liability". Their liability is probably asymmetric - they probably don't have much liability if they forbid guns on campus and someone gets shot, where they probably have a lot of liability if they allow guns on campus and someone gets shot. If that's true, then raising insurance rates probably means raised tuition. Not popular.
Don't get me wrong, I think that students with CCW permits should be able to carry on campus.
But I was complaining to folks I know when the private university my son goes to sent home a "reassuring" letter after the Va Tech shootings - the letter emphasized a bunch of policies that were the same ones in place at Va Tech at the time of the shooting there. No one got that. They all thought the policies were very reassuring. So I think you'll lose with the parents of the current students.
I think this is a losing issue.
You might win with allowing professors with CCW to carry on campus, but my guess is that you'll never win allowing students.
I hope that I am wrong.
Mike
Most people - and insurance companies' - view of college is "Animal House".
The insurer will almost certainly think "college students + beer + guns = increased liability". Their liability is probably asymmetric - they probably don't have much liability if they forbid guns on campus and someone gets shot, where they probably have a lot of liability if they allow guns on campus and someone gets shot. If that's true, then raising insurance rates probably means raised tuition. Not popular.
Don't get me wrong, I think that students with CCW permits should be able to carry on campus.
But I was complaining to folks I know when the private university my son goes to sent home a "reassuring" letter after the Va Tech shootings - the letter emphasized a bunch of policies that were the same ones in place at Va Tech at the time of the shooting there. No one got that. They all thought the policies were very reassuring. So I think you'll lose with the parents of the current students.
I think this is a losing issue.
You might win with allowing professors with CCW to carry on campus, but my guess is that you'll never win allowing students.
I hope that I am wrong.
Mike
jerkyman45
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86-14 us. Does UK allow carry on campus now?
Ghost Tracker
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I just don't think the college, the location, or the opinions of local Lexington Metro Government should have much to DO with the issue. Why should the acreage that comprises the UK Campus be held in a differrent legal regard that the REST of the Commonwealth? If you're/I'm a Ky Permit Holder & it's not a bar or a Courthouse...the Laws controlling the PERMIT (not the University) should apply. This is Post-Secondary Education, not an Elementary School.
finnerandr
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I just hit this poll. 83% in favor currently.
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