Poll - What type of reloading press do you use primarily based on round count?

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by LiveLife, Oct 20, 2021.

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What type of reloading press do you use primarily?

  1. Single Stage

    89 vote(s)
    38.7%
  2. Turret

    51 vote(s)
    22.2%
  3. Progressive

    90 vote(s)
    39.1%
  1. FROGO207

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    That was odd. I quoted myself in a double post sorry!

    Anyway the triad of reloading comes to mind when seeing Poppers post.
    There are three things to making good ammo. Inexpensive, fast, and reliable. You can choose any two without compromising your output.
     
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  2. MaxLoad

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    I use Dillons for pistol/revolver and Forster Co-AXs for 6.5 creedmoor and some 223/556, some 223/556 on the Dillons as well. I restored an old Hornady/Pacific DL-366 for 12 gauge... and I got a Lee single stage for bullet pulling, BHN testing, sizing, buldge busting, convincing the odd primer to sit flat and cracking walnuts. I'd like to have a turret... but I'm out of bench space.... but there is the kitchen counter... now that I think of it
     
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    2 - Dillon 550s for everything
    2 - Lee Single Stage for extremely short runs, fixing issues, cracking Cashews (I don't like walnuts) etc.
     
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  4. JEBruns

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    Sorry, but I have to disagree, at least for pistol. I've never reloaded for rifle, so can't speak to that. For the common straight walled pistol calibers, you can most certainly have inexpensive, fast and reliable.

    I guess you could argue the expense part if you're talking about the price of the press. I'm talking about the price per round when I talk expense. As far as the price of the press, it does take longer to pay off a press like my Dillon 1100. Time to "paid for" for me is about 45 weeks, but I shoot a lot. And there are cheaper options for progressive presses.

    I enjoy reloading, so I have no problem spending time at it. But shooting 200-300 rounds a week with a single stage or turret is just not in the books for me.
     
  5. twarr1

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    No option for Lee Classic Loader & hammer??
     
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    I noticed how many use a single stage for depriming. I guess I’m weird (I prefer ‘eccentric’), I deprime with a Lee 22 decapper & base and a hammer. For some reason sitting on the porch and hammering out a few hundred spent primers is relaxing.
     
  7. FROGO207

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    I don't shoot the volume that some on here do but I do enjoy the process of building each round. On the other hand filling a hopper with brass and pulling a handle to get ammo just goes against my OCD self. I would rather just buy it and stack deep if I had to do that anymore as it would feel the same either way. Just my way of thinking I guess.
     
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  8. AJC1

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    Not anymore strange than having your kid unload them so you have brass to load :)
     
  9. Legionnaire
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    I don't own a progressive. I own and use regularly a Lee Classic Turret (my first press), a couple different single stages, and an arbor press that only gets used for seating.
     
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  10. The Happy Kaboomer

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    On my bench are 4 Mec shotgun loaders(12, 20, 410 3", 410 2 1/2"). 2 Dillon Square Deals(w/6 caliber changes). And old RCBS Jr with 21 die/caiber changes.......The bases are covered.
     
  11. merlynski

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    5 or 500, its single stage. Rockchucker for heavier jobs, Lee C press for light duty like decapping.
     
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  12. ArchAngelCD

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    I use a Lee 4 hole turret press for handgun loading. I can usually safely load between 180 to 200 rounds of .38 Special an hour. I load somewhat less 45 Auto or 9mm ammo, usually about 150 rounds an hour. I'm really not pushing for speed because I enjoy loading but when I get on a roll they add up quickly.
     
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    rcbs single stage for rifle (6.5, 30-30, 243, etc)

    Lee classic turret for pistol, .38, .357, 380, 9mm,.45 etc.

    I got the turret because everyone in my house typically carries either a 380 or 9mm, and after a range trip i may need to reload several hundred before the next trip.

    So for me, round count makes the turret the "most used" but not necessarily my favorite - I learned on a single stage and still like the unhurried, methodical, single stage process.

    Dave
     
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  14. gifbohane

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    This ^^^^^^^^^
     
  15. W/Vickers1938

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    All my reloading is done on a single stage press. 50 -100 cases at a time, I even use my MEC's as single stage presses size and deprime,on 25, then seat primers on 25., then powder drop wad insert and shot charge, I usually have to fiddle with the crimp so crimping is completed separate step, I have nothing else to do .
    Have a nice day
     
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  16. vsteel

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    I do it all on a single stage RCBS rockchucker 2, because it is all I have. Has done many thousands over the years but I like the process of reloading so I am OK with going slow.
     
  17. westernrover

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    I've had all three plus an arbor press.

    For most of my loads, I use both the progressive and the single stage.
    I process handgun brass on the progressive.
    I seat bullets and crimp on the single stage

    For rifle, I only use the progressive to decap, because of the case feeder and ejector.
    I would use an Arbor press. I have one. But Wilson doesn't make dies for the cartridges I load.
    So I use a Single Stage.

    The turret was the least useful to me. For quick, sequential processes, it's a poor substitute for a progressive and it lacks the case feeder. For quick die changes, I just use a quick change die adapter.

    I voted Single Stage because even though I process more brass on the Progressive, I seat all my bullets on the single stage.
     
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  18. 1976B.L.Johns.

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    Instead of saying "ditto", same here.
     
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  19. mdi

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    I've only used single stage presses and one turret press. But my current press is "The Ultimate" single stage; Foreter Co-Ax...
     
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  20. 74man

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    I bought a RCBS Rockchucker Surpreme Kit (single stage press) in 2013 but only started loading a year ago. Lots to learn. I mostly load 40 S&W, 9MM, 30 Carbine, and .223 Rem/5.56 nato. Have not got into .308, 270, or 30-30 but will someday as well as 38/357. With loading supplies on the fritz, I only load what I shoot. My son is a LEO and when he goes to the range he brings me lots of 40 and 9MM. I have fun for a couple of weeks, then I do what I have been putting off around the house.
     
  21. Saluki91

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    9mm, .45ACP, 30-30, .223 - Progressive (DIllon 750)
    .308 - I treat my Dillon like a single stage... sizing and seating on the press, but powder and priming off the press
    Shot shell - All single stage (MEC Sizemasters)

    As for round count, I shoot 150-200 rounds of shot shells per week, so I'd say I use single stage presses the most.

    I hadn't given much thought to how much more I have been shooting my shotguns since Summer ended. It will be interesting to re-evaluate this when Spring rolls around.

    Cheers!
     
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  22. gifbohane

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    I am not trying to be difficult but I have a question. But if you have to take the cartridge on and off the Dillon at least twice then does that not defeat the purpose of a progressive? I bought a turret because I knew I would at least prime off the press and later I would trim off the press. Being cheap the turret cost me a lot less than a Dillon. I would love to pull the handle 5 or so times and have a round drop.

    Am I missing something?
     
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  23. Saluki91

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    Not being difficult at all... and you aren't missing anything. I don't own a single stage press for rifle/pistol, so I use what I have.

    I use the Dillon as a progressive when I am loading for pistol and bulk rifle ammo (.223, 30-30, etc). The only time I use it as a "single stage" is when I'm loading .308 for messing around with 200yd+ shots (and that isn't very often).

    Rounds on and off the press isn't that big of a deal... Size in station 1 - off to prime and charge - back on to seat in station 4

    I have been in negotiations with Santa for a dedicated single stage, but we will have to see how that plays out. ; - )

    Happy Thanksgiving!
     
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  24. Zendude

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    Although my finished rounds come off a Lee 1000 or Lee ABLP, I like a single stage when I want to decap and wet clean my brass. Caliber changing on a progressive gets old after a while too.
     
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  25. Rodfac

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    I loaded the first 35 years for rifle and handgun with a single stage Herter's #3 cast iron beauty....that cost me $13 in 1962, and BTW, will still load bottle neck rifle rounds with less than 0.003" runout. Thinking to upgrade my precision, I treated myself to a Harrell's turret, just before the turn of the century ...it's a lovely machine and a pleasure to use, but really no more precise than the ancient Herters. I use them both now, mostly for rifle, but occasionally for handgun load work up.

    In 2002, I bought my first Dillon 550B...a truly wonderful press that will easily load match grade ammunition for my short guns at a rate of 200 per hour...and that's taking my time. I was shooting a lot of handgun, and felt that the faster production would help....it did, and I've never regretted the decision.

    I load for more than a dozen hand gun calibers, of both primer sizes and decided to buy another 550B, keeping one press permanently set up for large primers and one for small. It's a great set up. Caliber changes, BTW, are five minutes or less....

    Dillon in my opinion has the very best customer service in the industry. One call, three rings and a pickup and you're talking with a fellow RELOADER who knows the product and your needs. They're terrific. I'd estimate that I've loaded over 100,000 rounds on those two presses now with only (2) broken decapping pins in that entire time. Dillon sent them along with with their compliments...no charge.

    You can also load singly on the 550 or utilize the progressive feature, the machine is easy to use, with a bit of practice once set up. I'd recommend it to a new reloader without hesitation....note that the phone call to customer service is so easy, and they'll straighten out any questions you might have.

    Buying the Dillon straight away, you'll never need to upgrade your press short of shooting 500 rounds every weekend in one of the shooting games. But with current ammunition/component shortages, commensurate price gouging, and the insane political climate, that amount of shooting may never come again.

    Example: last time I bought primers ~January 2020, they were $32/1000 at Cabelas here in Louisville...not the cheapest place to shop by far, but OK. Since then, primers have more than tripled in the past year and a half...as have most other components when you can find them....best of luck if you're just getting started.

    As to dies, & tools in general etc.: Lee is generally ok but not great, RCBS is very good, as are Dillon, Redding, Lyman et. al. If you go with a Lee press, I'd stay away from their Loadmaster progressive...nothing but trouble with the two that friends have worked with; trouble with plastic primer feeds and sequencing. Can't speak to their single stage or simple turret presses however.

    HTH's Rod
     
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