Popularity of the .380...

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Now that .380 is so popular, is it going to be as cheap as 9mm? :rolleyes:

I love .380s, but if you're looking for recoil relief, don't go with a small blowback pistol. Get a Glock 42 or a SIG P238 (especially the all-steel HD model) and you'll be happy.

My .380 roster:

  • SIG P232SL
  • SIG P238 Nitron
  • SIG P238 HD
  • CZ-83
  • Glock 42
 
I have a SIG p238 HD also. A really nice everyday carry pistol,And the night sites are fantastic. For carry and hd I load it up with Fed . Hydra-Shoks.
 
For years, decades even, I said I'd never load .380 ACP ammo. Then my wife bought a Walther PPK/S, then a Glock 42, then another. I now load .380 and there's no going back.
 
With the advancement in .380 defensive ammo, it is a good caliber compromise for some. I carried a CZ24 with silvertips and Glasers, the only non-ball ammo available for .380 back in the day, but only when I thought the 2 1/2" Python might print.

BTW, recoil in the CZ24 was very mild. Not so for the Python!
 
I would love it if growing interest in this caliber, and the related economies of scale, meant that 9x17mm ammunition prices finally dropped to prices equivalent to 9x19mm.
 
Now that .380 is so popular, is it going to be as cheap as 9mm? :rolleyes:
Though the gap is closing I doubt .380's will ever approach the economy of 9mm. The popularity of .380s, as others have alluded, it mostly due to the convenience of pocket size pistols.

In other words, folks love to own them - not so much to shoot them.
 
^ back in 03 when I bought my BDA I was only paying a $1.00 more than 9mm, well worth it because IMHO the BDA in nickel is just a cool gun to own.
 
With the government buying 9x19 in the tens of millions every year, the economy of scale will overcome the savings in powder, brass, and lead of the .380 ACP.

I would remind those who talk about the recoil of the mini-guns that not everyone buys them. The various other .380 chambered guns vary quite a bit inn size, and felt recoil. The Beretta Model 84, for example, is a good example of a .380 that has virtually no recoil. The ATi 2000 is a Beretta 84 clone, or the Taurus PT58. There have been some current .380 pistols in production for the better part of fifty years.

I've shot or owned and shot .380's from the Seecamp on up to the Taurus PT58HC. Virtually all of the properly engineered guns have been reliable, accurate, and durable. Even some of the smaller ones were locked breech guns, like the Mustang, or Government Model .380 Colts.

Are there more powerful rounds? Of course, there is ALWAYS a more powerful round. However, like Nosler was fond of asking "at what point in the death of the animal did the bullet fail?"

Recoil sensitivity is a real physical phenomena. It can be caused by physical injuries or diseases, or even old age. To hear some talk, if you can't handle their favorite cartridge, you shouldn't be armed. All of our self-defense pistol rounds require the same factor. They have to hit the target in the proper location. Doesn't matter how close a miss you score with a 9mm or a .45, the bad guy won't pay proper attention. Hits, even with the "lowly" .380 work much better. :)
 
I'm a .380 fan, it's a good round. I have a Makarov in .380, my wife has a Glock 42

The G42 fits my wifes hand like a glove. Now that she's finally found a pistol that fits her well, she enjoys shooting and practices regularly. I find myself reloading more .380 rounds now than any other caliber we shoot for.

I don't find the .380 craze surprising. The only thing that surprises me is that it didn't happen sooner.

JR47, I have to agree, a hit with a .25 beats a miss with a .45 every time. If the .380 is what you shoot well, then just go with it you'll be better off than you would with a larger gun that you're not comfortable with
 
I also enjoy the 380 and carry it more than any other caliber. My LCP is always in my pocket whether I am carrying another gun as a primary or not. My Kahr CT380 is carried a lot too

I just picked up a Bersa Combat and also own a Browning BDA. The BDA is strictly for the range and it's cool factor.
 
I still have the only .380 I've ever owned; a Walther PPK/S. It fits me like a glove and is astonishingly accurate. Recoil is snappy but nothing to take notice of. In fact, my prewar 7.65 PPK is "snappier".
 
I have four 380's:
Russian Makarov
Beretta 84
Colt Government Model
P3AT

The first three are easy and fun to shoot. They are on the large/heavy side, and the Colt even has a locked breech. The P3AT is not fun to shoot, but it is extremely easy to conceal.
 
I carry an LCP loaded with XTP's quite often. Typically in a DeSantis Nemesis or IWB in a High Noon.

Far from my favorite gun to shoot, but it certainly is the easiest to conceal and carry.
 
I like the small size of 380 pistols. It allows me to get faster follow up shots and shoots easier one handed. Mine is a Bersa Thunder CC model.
 
My sons bersa thunder, and my Sig p238 recoil like a 22 lr . We both love shooting them ,and can consistantly make head shots at 17 yds. .... Thats the farthest distance on our pistol range.
 
.380 is a venerable round , around which many fine pistols have been designed and built.

I have no .380 "pocket pistols" ; I am into function and style ---

Pietro Beretta m85
 

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I purchased a G42 about one year ago and the gun has become my favorite EDC. It is light weight, easy to conceal, accurate, easy to maintain, and has minimal recoil. I carry the G42 loaded with 90 grain Corbon JHP, and keep a spare mag in my pocket. I really like the G42. That said, I picked up a G43 on Thurs and hope to get to the range on Tues.
 
Jeff Cooper wrote that nothing that is really popular could be really good cause not that many people would be expert enough in that field to know what was the better picks.

The .380 is popular cause of the handy size of the guns made in it, and not cause of the round it's chambered in.

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I would not pay to much attention to the experts, so called. On another topic there were three "experts" with customized Glocks talking about modifications made to their guns. I stopped watching the video right after they mentioned religiously loading factory mags with one round less than full in their magazines, ok.

I noticed that well trained commandos often do not really differentiate between pistol and a revolver often calling pistol a revolver. Now, when that happens I do listen to the full video. Basically handgun is just the tool to get the job done.
 
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Living in S. Florida means it's shorts and t-shirt weather pretty much all year round. Pocket .380s are quite common here. I frequently carry an LCP loaded with Hornaday Critical Defense. It's light enough that it doesn't weigh down even my nylon athletic shorts.
 
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