"Pre-ban" rifles on gunbroker

[merlinfire]

I still see folding-stock mini-14's and ar's on gunbroker going for $400+ more than the going price with the phrase "pre-ban" attached to them. Did these people just not get the memo that the ban expired 7 years ago, or did some part of it not expire and I'm missing it?

 

[maxx]

I agree with you on the "pre-ban" thing.

GB is good for finding hard to find items you can't find locally.
If you sift thru enough ads, you can find some decent deals, you have to do your homework though.

 

[MiniZ]

Some states(New York as one example) still have weapon bans patterned after the expired Federal assault weapons ban.

To have "prohibited features" in these states still requires pre-1994 weapons.

 

[52grain]

miniz beat me to it.

 

[rbernie]

Did these people just not get the memo that the ban expired 7 years ago, or did some part of it not expire and I'm missing it?

It expired at the Federal level, but a handful of states enacted similar (if not worse) legislation. 'Pre-ban' still has meaning to those poor sods.

 

[Baby Kaboomer]

It's true. Many tens or hundreds of thousands of your gun-owning brothers and sisters are still held captive by similar variations of that Assault Weapons Ban in states like New York (mine), New Jersey, California, Massachusetts, Connecticut.... Let me tell you it really sux hard being limited to 10 round mags and rifles that can't combine pistol grips, folding or collapsible stocks, threaded barrels, flash hiders, etc., etc. Big time crime, too, a felony.

The only choice we have is to buy a "pre (1994) ban" firearm and magazines. In NY we can't be 100% sure we're legal any other way. For example, New Yorkers have assumed for years that it was ok to own an AR with a collapsible stock as long as that stock was permanently pinned in one position. But one county's overzealous DA thinks otherwise. Just three days ago she raided every gun shop in the county and is trying to make criminals out of anyone who has bought or sold an AR manufactured after 9/13/2004!

http://www.nassaucountyny.gov/agencies/DA/NewsReleases/2011/021711gunshops.htm

Supply and demand. Pre bans are worth their weight in gold to me, and they're only going to go up in value in these states.

 

[courtgreene]

if you have a pre-ban receiver, and you build on it, are you legal or not?

 

[Onward Allusion]

merlinfire
"Pre-ban" rifles on gunbroker

I think there's 2 reasons... First, these guns are semi-collectible. Second, there are still some people out there thinking that these weapons are still illegal "post-ban". In some cases, it is true because some States still have draconian laws.

 

[Legionnaire]

if you have a pre-ban receiver, and you build on it, are you legal or not?

As I understand the law, the receiver has to have been built into a pre-ban configuration before the beginning of the ban to qualify as grandfathered. You're out of luck if it's a virgin receiver that has been sitting all these years. But if the receiver left the factory in a pre-ban configuration--or you can prove it was built into a pre-ban configuration before the ban-- you are free to change that configuration to another pre-ban configuration as often as you like. There were/are a lot of pre-ban Colt Sporters in NY State rebuilt into M-4geries. And guys in NY still pay a premium for true, pre-ban Colts.

Been there, done that, back when I lived in NY under the ban.

 

[arizona98tj]

Did these people just not get the memo that the ban expired 7 years ago, or did.......

Be careful about who you are accusing of missing a memo.

 

[merlinfire]

Makes sense. Forgot about the less gun-friendly states.

 

[Baby Kaboomer]

Yeah, wherever you live, be glad it ain't here!

 

[MJ]

You still don't get it. Pre-bans will never be imported again with out 922r parts in them so they will never be as valuable as a pre ban. You want a US made hammer in your HK clone that might be to soft? Well you won't get an HK 91 or 93 again anyway so you go ahead and trust you life to parts made in a backyard shop. All post ban AK's came in as partialy stripped receivers that must have US made parts installed. Trust Century to not use the lowest bidder making those parts? Ha! So a pre ban Norinco is still a better buy.