Price Gouging - Who is & Who is not?

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I don't really hold it against them, I agree with a free market. I don't feel I'm entitled to a price that is below the equilibrium price. Equilibrium prices shift as supply and demand changes. Super simple concept. Sure, I think it's decent of companies to make a modest markup and limit order size as to spread around what goods are available but I also believe they have the freedom to price them as they wish. If the price is too high for me I won't buy it, but maybe somebody who wants it more than me will. Good for them.

I'm much more willing to remember excellent customer service than raising prices during a shortage. They need to make money too. If they can sell everything in stock at a higher profit margin, good for them. This is a consumer driven process after all.

I've never ordered a single item from cheaper than dirt because I have ALWAYS been able to find it somewhere else cheaper. I could care less they jacked up Pmags to $60 per... they sold them all. In short order if I recall.

I appreciated Midway's million dollar donation to the NRA-ILA recently. Prices being equal, I'd lean Midway for an order. But if I find someone who can get it to me significantly cheaper... they'll get my dollar.
 
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Is ammunition and the ability to defend your family in a time of crisis essential? You tell me..

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They are right it isn't just the retailers charging crazy prices that it's the problem. It is mostly the stupid people that is buying them. I haven't bought anything since this started. Even when I seen the stuff at reasonable prices at Walmart. I thought about it but decided to let someone else have it since I can go awhile yet.
 
Is ammunition and the ability to defend your family in a time of crisis essential? You tell me..
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Ammunition? No, it isnt. Besides, if you are that poorly prepared, whose fault is that? Yours, or the person charging for that ammo?
 
When places like PV, Wideners, Brownells, and nachez haven't raised prices it says manufacturers haven't either.

Anyone charging double are pirates and deserve to burn for it.
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I see, so when the small corner store charges $5 for a gallon of milk but Costco sells it for $2.50, he should burn?

Yet another who does not understand how supply and demand works.

Do you know what his purchase price is? What his overhead costs are? Do you actually own your own business and have to deal with employees and all of the costs, new taxes. Obamacare increases, etc?
What he is charging is what he thinks he can sell it for to make a (oh perish the thought - a PROFIT) so he can keep his small store open.

But you would rather he sells below market and even below his replacement costs so someone like you can buy them, and then flip them on gunbroker?

I really wish more would learn about supply/demand

Watch this video - not too long and it might explain it better than I am:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9QEkw6_O6w
 
I just by it from the one with a reasonable price & watch the guy go out of business. I'm smart enough to get my stuff while I'm in town instead of running to the corner & paying twice as much. It isn't supply & demand it is stupid people paying to much.
 
I've already seen the whack-job video justifying profiteering. It doesn't make the pirates any less slime bags. The guys selling generators after hurricanes for triple or more are the lowest kind of pond scum. :barf:
 
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While there are a few retailers that I won't do business with because of insane price hikes, let me say. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS PRICE GOUGING WHEN TALKING ABOUT NON-ESSENTIAL ITEMS!
Buying things that are not absolutely necessary is a choice. You don't have to buy it, hence, there is no price gouging. It's their right to charge what they won't. By the same token, it is our right to take our business elsewhere.
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Spot on.

To you Liberal gun owners crying "not fair", next time, be prepared. If you MUST have components or ammuntion right now, then suck it up, be a man, pay the price and take your lumps for not planning ahead.
 
Call it gouging or not, ammo is not hobby supplies for all of us. Ammo may be way more than hobby supplies soon. Model trains are hobby supplies.

Triumph, I tried to do something like this a while back, can't seem to get this kind of "list of good / bad guys" thing going here. Always gets hijacked. I'm guilty of it too. Sorry man. Good idea though.

From what I can tell, Cabelas hasn't gouged at all, at least on factory loads. I don't reload myself, not sure on components.
 
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Is ammunition and the ability to defend your family in a time of crisis essential? You tell me..
Ammunition? No, it isnt.
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Wait... What? You said it isn't? What do you defend your home with? Rocks?
What do you consider essential?
 
The price gougers are the ones that have components in stock.

The non gougers are the ones you have to scan daily to see if they have anything, and then race to buy it, and then wonder where it is 6 weeks later.

Both options have their drawbacks.
 
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To you Liberal gun owners crying "not fair", next time, be prepared. If you MUST have components or ammuntion right now, then suck it up, be a man, pay the price and take your lumps for not planning ahead.
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Liberals? Really?

Also, I went back & read my original post. I didn't say anything a out planning ahead or not. I have PLENTY of primers & have no need to buy them at $59/1000.

Here is the original post for those who did not start there:

Price Gouging - Who is & Who is not?
Thought it might be helpful to have a list of the online retailers that are price gouging & those who are not.

If gouging is to strong a word you can think of it any way you like - big mark ups, keystoning, etc...

Please spare me the explanation of Supply & Demand. I have a degree in economics & get it. Companies can charge what they want but customers also have LONG memories.

I am talking about online dealers who hope to stay in the business of reloading supplies.

There are several reputable online dealers that are not significantly raising prices.

Please limit to Online Dealers only & not your LGS.
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Also, I'm not crying & don't know anyone who is. Haven't met many reloaders that cry about anything.

Go right ahead with your preaching. I mentioned in the original post that companies can charge whatever they want.

This is good though - Let's get all the "holier than thou" comments out of the way so we can get back to discussing those companies "excessively marking up" vs. those that aren't.
 
It's pretty simple, really.

Me: You have some primers, right? I'll give you $28.00 for 1k SRP.

You: Well, I don't really know you. But that's a "fair" price. And I can spare 1k. So, ok.

Me: Kewl. Gimme 5k more at the same price, while you're at it.

You: But then I won't have any left. And it could be long time before I can get more.

.... Well that's the same boat that the gun stores are in.
 
People that complain about prices in any market are the same that think they are entitled to a certain price.
 
Has anyone got free load data for 308 and 30-06 Hornady 150 gr??? Please don't gouge, just scratch.
 
I'd follow the supply demand concept but, That only really holds true of a complete market increasing prices, not just a select few. If we were looking at supply vs demand, increases would be across the board. Now with that concept in mind I believe that the O.P. is trying to get a helpful thread going of supply sites who have not been charging higher prices for the supplies we try to keep stock of. This is a free market concept commonly referred to as bargain shopping. If a product is available at a lower price at a various vendor, it is not whining to seek them out, it's smart shopping. Not trying to offend anyone, just to point out that a simple misunderstanding may be souring the post field.
I have been seeing steady pricing from Natchez and Midway. I stay clear of Armslist for now, but I believe it will be quite a good place for supplies in the following years.
I have not had any use for online vendors for primers or powder. All have been easier to find locally at same as always price. Harder to find primers but powder is been back for a while.
 
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