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Price Gouging - Who is & Who is not?
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Constrictor
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in the last 6 weeks i have ordered and recieved:
16 pounds 2400 pv
16 pounds unique pv
20k winchester small pistol primers pv
14k 9mm,45,44 mag bullets from mo bullet
and i have 4k berry's 9mm ordered from pv march 6th that should ship any day now.
all at pre panic prices. so yeah i believe him.
Lj1941
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It is called "Free Market". Anyone with a problem ask any Cuban, North Korean or Chi-com how they feel about it! At least we here in the USA, STILL have the freedom to buy or not buy anything we consider outlandishly expensive.
I don't recall asking you to.
Sounds like Constrictor was patient and did well also(My unique train will come in some day, dang it. ).
Thanks to Walkalong and the staff for letting this one run a bit. I know the "gouging" thing has been done to death on many discussion boards and it isn't very high road for us to bicker about things here.
Queen_of_Thunder
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From PV website.
BACKORDERS: (Effective 01/29/13 at 8 AM ET) Due to the overwhelming number of orders and the extreme supply shortages we are temporarily discontinuing our policy of accepting backorders. Orders that are placed for items listed as "Out of Stock" on the website will be immediately canceled. All customers who have backorders in our system currently will not be affected and these orders will be processed as soon as the items become available. We are extremely sorry for any inconvenience this may cause. We hope to return to accepting backorders once we have obtained a manageable level of orders to be shipped.
Constrictor
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I've seen that. What's your point? They get products from almost all their vendors every week.
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Good thread, I like knowing who to support with my dollars.
I will not pay extremely marked up prices just to have a stock pile. If I didn't have anything ( shame on me for that ) I might buy what I needed for emergency use only.
Midway and Natchez have my good vote. Midway even had my Classic Turret Kit on sale when I bought mine a few weeks ago.
Cheaper Than Dirt gets my bad vote. I need to save them some money and cancel that paper they send me every month. I woudn't buy from them again if they were cheaper than everyone else when things get back to normal.
I will not pay extremely marked up prices just to have a stock pile. If I didn't have anything ( shame on me for that ) I might buy what I needed for emergency use only.
Midway and Natchez have my good vote. Midway even had my Classic Turret Kit on sale when I bought mine a few weeks ago.
Cheaper Than Dirt gets my bad vote. I need to save them some money and cancel that paper they send me every month. I woudn't buy from them again if they were cheaper than everyone else when things get back to normal.
Queen_of_Thunder
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Remember to keep in mind the difference between a mom and pop retail sized operation versus the chain store or the Brownells and Midway USA's.
thump_rrr
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I wonder what everyone considers to be gouging.
In Canada I was paying $208.99 for a 500ct box of Sierra 30 cal 180gr (2220C) before SH.
I bought the same box yesterday for $218.99 or 5% more than last year.
I also bought Varget for wait.......
$34.95/lb. I typically purchase Varget for $200.00/8lb which comes to $25.00/lb but I can't get any right now. The the price for individual 1lb containers is usually $32.95 around here so $3.00/lb more is not so bad.
At least I know who has an extra 20 lbs for the time being.
As for being unprepared it's not that I don't have any more of these items but I'm making sure that I have enough to last me till the summer of 2014.
It's also hard to prepare when I have only been shooting for less than 3 years.
In the last 3 years I've purchased 9 firearms including 3 AR's and 2 handguns a fully progressive reloading setup and a complete single stage setup.
In Canada I was paying $208.99 for a 500ct box of Sierra 30 cal 180gr (2220C) before SH.
I bought the same box yesterday for $218.99 or 5% more than last year.
I also bought Varget for wait.......
$34.95/lb. I typically purchase Varget for $200.00/8lb which comes to $25.00/lb but I can't get any right now. The the price for individual 1lb containers is usually $32.95 around here so $3.00/lb more is not so bad.
At least I know who has an extra 20 lbs for the time being.
As for being unprepared it's not that I don't have any more of these items but I'm making sure that I have enough to last me till the summer of 2014.
It's also hard to prepare when I have only been shooting for less than 3 years.
In the last 3 years I've purchased 9 firearms including 3 AR's and 2 handguns a fully progressive reloading setup and a complete single stage setup.
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Our local shop is sometimes cheaper than online stores - if you leave out the tax. Took a quick look on gunbroker - people want $150 for 1K Federal Small Rifle Primers! I think I paid $40 a few weeks ago. There are bids up to $99 right now. Can't believe it.
I can't blame the action. That it's people paying what they want. I don't go to the action around me because it is full of people that pay more for junk then good cost retail. I've seen a 8 piece Craftsman wrench set go for $80 here. Aren't they about $10?
thump_rrr
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And I thought that $42.50 for 1,000 Federal GMM 210M was too much last week.
I still bought them though.
Who has what in stock? you see there is a HUGE demand for reloading goods right now. Just because someone is selling primers for 50.00K does not mean he is making a ton of money on them He may have had to buy them from another distributor that is jacking his prices up. You see you DONT have to pay high prices if you don't want to. No one is making any one buy anything.
That's also a list of who is generally in stock and who is generally out of stock.
I wonder why that is?
LiveLife
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Well, add Ammunitionstore.com to the list.
$80/1000 for Wolf primers!
- http://www.ammunitionstore.com/categories/reloading/primers.html
BTW, Bruno lowered their prices on Wolf primers down from $59 to $45-$49/1000 - http://www.brunoshooters.com/Mercha...n=CTGY&Store_Code=BSS&Category_Code=WOLFSMMAG
$80/1000 for Wolf primers!
- http://www.ammunitionstore.com/categories/reloading/primers.htmlBTW, Bruno lowered their prices on Wolf primers down from $59 to $45-$49/1000 - http://www.brunoshooters.com/Mercha...n=CTGY&Store_Code=BSS&Category_Code=WOLFSMMAG
I hope this situation lasts into the next election cycle. I fear that Americans have too short a memory and will soon forget the lessons we have had over and over.
I want the millions who are now scrambling and panicking to go into the voting booth with that same attitude.
I want the millions who are now scrambling and panicking to go into the voting booth with that same attitude.
Not reloading components, but seriously taking advantage of the situation caused by the turd with ears and all his pathetic followers. I sincerely hope these idiots fall to Obamanomics.
http://www.usaammo.com/45-Auto-230-gr-FMJ-New-Ammo-Best-Prices-In-Stock-P677.aspx
$100.00 a box for $12.00 ammunition. Folks don't do business with the likes of these people.
http://www.usaammo.com/45-Auto-230-gr-FMJ-New-Ammo-Best-Prices-In-Stock-P677.aspx
$100.00 a box for $12.00 ammunition. Folks don't do business with the likes of these people.
Weird, I've had a backorder for 3.5 months at PV for what was only 6 lbs of powder and 4K primers. Local Cabela's has been getting faster powders, so I dropped to just 4 lbs of 2400 and the primers, and still waiting. I have a few year's worth of components anyway, so the wait isn't bothersome, but it's still a wait just the same.
Brunos posted on another forum that in order to get some components to stock, they had to go outside their normal distribution channels and pay market pricing. That drives their price up but makes it available to their customers rather than empty shelves and huge stacks of backorders that may not be filled for months.
I agree with several others that say it can't be considered gouging when it's a hobby product.
I would (begrudgingly) pay the price if I felt that I just HAD to have certain components but I am fortunate enough to have laid in a pretty good stock of most of what I need.
I agree with several others that say it can't be considered gouging when it's a hobby product.
I would (begrudgingly) pay the price if I felt that I just HAD to have certain components but I am fortunate enough to have laid in a pretty good stock of most of what I need.
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