Primer availabilty seems to be improving?

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I got an email from Midway this morning saying than WLPs were in stock. I pulled up the product page 2 minutes after the email was sent and they were out of stock/no backorder.

Anybody know how those things work? Dd they really sell out that fast? Or does their system just suck?
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Similar situation happened to me with Natchez last week. They e-mailed me and 45 minutes after the message was sent it was all gone. I was too slow to see the e-mail coming in.

There was a way to backdoor their items-listings and it showed the primers were still available, but the next Sunday they sent an e-mail saying 'no dice.'

I hope by September this will all have been a bad dream.
 
Stopped by the old Sportsman's Warehouse today just to see what they had. Wow. Nothing but some 209's and some of the powders and many of the bullets also gone. They'd even taken price tags away for the primers so I guess that means there won't be a resolution anytime soon. Some people need to stop acting like the lady with 100+ cats.
 
Dude... I've been doing this since long before the 'Internet' came to be, and before most re-loaders even knew there was a method of posting their experiences and thoughts remotely via computer
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Whoopee, I've been reloading since before the hand held calculator.

Not to go to far off topic I brought up my Auto expense book for last year. Gas expence for one of my vehicels was $665 for 220 gals., there was a time 220 gals would have cost me less than $40.00. And they claim we're going to have more inflation?
 
Reloading, despite hoarding and shortages, is the only way around these parts to get shootable pistol ammunition or at least quality ammuntion. None of our local dealers have any ammunition for most pistols or revolvers. Finding a couple 100 pistol primers occasionally at a local dealer's is the only way to keep shooting.

Large rifle primers seem to be in better supply than pistol primers. Small rifle primers and small pistol primers are not available anywhere that I know of without a long wait. Some seem to think that the situation is improving. I hope so and look forward to being able to buy enough primers to at least shoot my short guns regularly.
 
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Dude... I've been doing this since long before the 'Internet' came to be, and before most re-loaders even knew there was a method of posting their experiences and thoughts remotely via computer.

Oh! well then...WWRFP??

Scott
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You're quoting me out of context. And that is fallacious. Wanna start over again? SIR! :eek: (The rest of what I would like to say is edited out for the sake of civility) Have a good day!
 
Got two more Product Availability notices from Midway. The first was for Remington LPs, which I didn't get till about 30 minutes after it was sent. When I went to the product page it showed available. When I tried to add them to my cart it said they were out of stock. Another 10 minutes or so later and the product page showed out of stock.
Then I got one for Federal LPs. This one I got 4 minutes after it was sent...Went to the page, it showed out of stock. So I commenced hitting refresh on the page every 10 seconds or so, hoping they'd show up as available after 10 minutes or so as someone mentioned earlier in this thread. I'm now 30 minutes out from that email and it's still showing out of stock :(
 
Well....

Dude... I've been doing this since long before the 'Internet' came to be, and before most re-loaders even knew there was a method of posting their experiences and thoughts remotely via computer.
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Sorry Tony, but I just promised another member that I wouldn't feed the trolls...

As for WWRFP = What Would Reloader Fred Post? Fred is another great contributor to the High Road who already knew enough not to feed you!

Scott
 
I was on the phone with a friend of mine this morning, he is one of the mfg managers at CCI, Primer Division. Quote from him "We (meaning CCI) are back ordered worlwide to August 2011." When I asked what the problem is, 1. They lost 25% capability due to a machine failure in which the tooling will not be in until Sept 09. 2. South American and African sales are close to 420% higer than normal. 3. Many opf the primers are being used on their mfg lines for ammo, so this diverts close to 30% of their primer capacity to their own operations. 4. The recall of primers last August srp's, took many primers off the market, they are still trying to catch up, the recall was due to internal anvil corrosion. The recall was only to stocking dealers and wholesalers, so the recall did not reach the consumer except the market dried up.

I hope this helps clear up some of the issues on primers. He does not feel the primer avail will be much better until Jan 2011. He also stated he expects consumer prices due to supply and demand will be close to 20 -50% higher depending on the specific compnent this early fall on primers and ammunition. ...............so read em and weep or plan for the worse and smile.

I am thinking of trading some of my hoard of supplies for .410's and .22lr pieces..... I especially want a Bond or American Derringer in .410 and NAA 22lr Mini Revolvers with 1 1/8" barrels. If I do, I will post a wtt in the proper catagory. I can prob let 10% of my supplies go w/o really bothering the space time warp field and still sit pretty with what I have left. I traded 30,000 srp to a table dealer at a gun show, sold 20,00 mixed primers to Stonewall. I can prob let 100,000 mixed primers and 50lbs of mixed powders go w/o much of an upset and I will even do it at 10% below Mfg list retail prices, so no gouging by me .

* tips hat to Tony.....Tony see, I can share.... but I also know, No good deed goes unpunished !!! :)))

Regards,
Mike
 
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Hehehehe - I just picked up 1k large pistol primers and I'm not saying where :p. The owner of the shop is rationing primers, one box per person, to try and cut down on hoarding. This was fine with me since I don't want to contribute to the hording problem and 1k will last me a while :).
 
Was reading Lyman's in the porcelain library last night and they mentioned some municipalities have 10k limitations of primers on property. You have to wonder how many are breaking laws they either know or don't know about.
 
Hey gryff, I went to Midway a couple weeks ago to pick up an order. They had a couple pallets of primers sitting there. I said, I got an email from you this morning about having primers in stock. I got the email about 2 minutes after it was sent. Went to the site and it showed out of stock. The guy taking care of my order told me that they use a service to send out those emails. By the time they contact the service and the emails get sent out, items like primers and other highly wanted items are usually gone already. He said the only reliable way to get them when Midway shows them in stock is to be on the website and time it for when it actually gets marked available. I told him I really do have better things to do than sit on their website refreshing constantly.

John
 
Was reading Lyman's in the porcelain library last night and they mentioned some municipalities have 10k limitations of primers on property. You have to wonder how many are breaking laws they either know or don't know about
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Not only this but many insurance companies have limits for primers and/or powder and if one should happen to have a fire--no coverage!
 
My Cabela's order from April is still being pushed back. Figured since I was waiting, I'd order a coupla boxes of SPPs as well, so I added those to the order. Latest e-mail says maybe July 30 for those.

The rifle primers were supposed to be in Saturday or Monday. No shipped notice...

If this keeps up, I'll just get in line with someone else and wait for THEM to get some too. Usually kept 1-2K of everything in stock. Now I'm down to 300 or fewer LRs.
 
ok I am new here and new to reloading. A friend got me started and right in the shortages but i have only buy what i want to use fairly soon and i know that some of you will say what if this and what if that but come on people use some common sense. I try to think about the guy next to me that might want some. Was talking to a guy in front of me, who by the way gave me 500 LR primers, he said a man in front of him bought a pallets worth of .223, before companies started putting limits on it, said it was 64,000 dollars. Have heard the same story from 3 people. He said he asked the guy to sell him a couple of boxes, the man was gonna charge double. Now that is ridiculus

Sorry so long with no point other than think about the next guy
 
...he is one of the mfg managers at CCI, Primer Division. Quote from him "We (meaning CCI) are back ordered worlwide to August 2011." When I asked what the problem is, 1. They lost 25% capability due to a machine failure in which the tooling will not be in until Sept 09. 2. South American and African sales are close to 420% higer than normal. 3. Many opf the primers are being used on their mfg lines for ammo, so this diverts close to 30% of their primer capacity to their own operations. 4. The recall of primers last August srp's, took many primers off the market, they are still trying to catch up, the recall was due to internal anvil corrosion. The recall was only to stocking dealers and wholesalers, so the recall did not reach the consumer except the market dried up.
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:what: August 2011 is a long way off. With the present state of wildcat hording I'm guessing a kind of black market will flourish over this, once things sorta stabilize. The biggest problem is getting the primers from one place to another by UPS, and HazMat fees and regulations - that is if you're gonna pay what ever's the going price. Does anyone know how to get a national list of UPS authorized HazMat packagers?
 
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Not only this but many insurance companies have limits for primers and/or powder and if one should happen to have a fire--no coverage!
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This is usually governed by NFPA 495, which is often adopted by municipalities as an ordinance. Usually the insurance policy language has something that says violation of ordinance/code = no coverage.
 
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